Deitch wrote:Worth noting that Byrd's third-year option actually allows this year's cap number to be pretty low on him. Closer to $4 million.

Is this true?

No.

Grotewold wrote:

I realized when you hit the top of the ball, the ball goes down and it's a ground ball.

FFS I learned that in Little League

Woody wrote:SUCK ON THAT BACKSPIN, SHORE

I stand corrected. Bat him cleanup.

Need someone to do a story on guys who broke out at age 35.

Shore wrote:Need someone to do a story on guys who broke out at age 35.

Heard Urbina tried to

Grotewold wrote:

Shore wrote:Need someone to do a story on guys who broke out at age 35.

Heard Urbina tried to

Well played

seriously, he never knew hitting the ball on the top causes it to go down?

and how did every hitting coach miss that?

because he came up through the Phillies org

meh, alot of coaches preach the down and hard swing approach. I think that is what he is saying.

I could see a guy with good speed being told to hit the top half of the ball. I wasn't fast at all and I was told that in little league.

And I was a Moroon Raider in little league. I think we were a part of the Mets org.

laf837 wrote:meh, alot of coaches preach the down and hard swing approach. I think that is what he is saying.

Yeah, and my guess is that he was being somewhat TIC about the whole "I figured out that if you hit the top of the ball it goes down" thing.

Monkeyboy wrote:I could see a guy with good speed being told to hit the top half of the ball.

If he's Revere or Dee Gordon, yeah. Not someone that was being compared to Kirby Puckett

Grotewold wrote:

Deitch wrote:Worth noting that Byrd's third-year option actually allows this year's cap number to be pretty low on him. Closer to $4 million.

Is this true?

CFP is right about this not being true. If the 3rd year option contained a player option (like the Rollins deal), it could lower the AAV below $8M. But it could never take it close to $4M even if the player option was for a penny. It would be ($16M + player option amount) / 3, so something greater than $5.33M.

It appears this is only a club option with possible vesting, so it's ignored for now and the 2/$16M is used for the cap.

BigEd76 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I could see a guy with good speed being told to hit the top half of the ball.

If he's Revere or Dee Gordon, yeah. Not someone that was being compared to Kirby Puckett

Not sure we should be counting CALIFORNIA DREAMING's player evaluations

BigEd76 wrote:

Monkeyboy wrote:I could see a guy with good speed being told to hit the top half of the ball.

If he's Revere or Dee Gordon, yeah. Not someone that was being compared to Kirby Puckett

I'm not saying it was a good idea, but he was talking about little league. On my little league team, we were taught to hit the top half of the ball to keep from hitting so many balls in the air. It just wouldn't surprise me if that's what he was told.

I was lucky to get any of the ball

I'm lucky I have any balls.

Grotewold wrote:I was lucky to get any of the ball

One year my coach kept pretty in-depth stats. I remember hitting like .250 but OBPed around .400. Everyone hated me because I didn't hit enough. Even at like age 12 I knew the value of a walk.

Grotewold wrote:"We talked to our scouts about how his swing path and approach changed," Amaro said. "He's worked on it. I have to trust my scouts on it."

"The scouts also said that we'll need to go 2/16MM with an option to get him. Gotta go with the guys who know baseball."

Gotta look at that ERA, ummm, FB%. (He's actually had a few years with higher FB%, so I don't really buy the whole "I tried to hit flyballs last year" argument. The difference with last year is that his flyballs went farther, not that he hit them at a higher rate.)

Pretty big change (drop) his zone contact rate though iirc. Shows he started sacrificing contact for power.