Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby smitty » Sun Sep 01, 2013 14:02:48

They should bring him up in September to see what we got. Looks like he has a split T pitching motion which is tough on the shoulder. I can see this guy Horsting for a year or so.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby BigEd76 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 14:39:30

Galvis will be called up on Tuesday


Steaks on Rasmussen and Ogando:

-- both kids have good arms but they also have command issues
-- both need to be put on the 40-man roster after the season or risk being lost in Rule V
-- Rasmussen is being viewed as a LOOGY
-- Ogando reached 100mph a couple times
-- SMUG shot down Heyman's report that the Phils could've gotten a better prospect from the Yankees in July (Trenton reliever Tommy Kahnle). "NOPE"..."We like this guy more". Says Kahnle has control issues too

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby smitty » Sun Sep 01, 2013 14:47:25

6.4 BB/9. He might be right.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Grotewold » Sun Sep 01, 2013 14:58:35

BigEd76 wrote:SMUG shot down Heyman's report that the Phils could've gotten a better prospect from the Yankees in July (Trenton reliever Tommy Kahnle). "NOPE"..."We like this guy more". Says Kahnle has control issues too


Heyman just won't let this go. It's this year's Give Lee to the Dodgers.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Bucky » Sun Sep 01, 2013 15:58:25

aha, both rule V guys next year. I was actually wondering how we got anything for either guy.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby BigEd76 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 18:03:58

RasmussenRob
Extremely grateful for the opportunity the Dodgers gave me. A first class organization filled will people I will miss being around. However, I could not be more excited to join another first class and storied organization like the Phillies!

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby jerseyhoya » Sun Sep 01, 2013 18:06:40

He thinks we're a first class, storied organization

Must be young

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Sep 01, 2013 18:06:57

BigEd76 wrote:
RasmussenRob
Extremely grateful for the opportunity the Dodgers gave me. A first class organization filled will people I will miss being around. However, I could not be more excited to join another first class and storied organization like the Phillies!


Storied is right.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby BigEd76 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 18:10:39

jerseyhoya wrote:He thinks we're a first class, storied organization

Must be young


The Phils have won more World Series in his lifetime than the Dodgers have, so there's that

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby mcare89 » Sun Sep 01, 2013 18:50:32

Grotewold wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:SMUG shot down Heyman's report that the Phils could've gotten a better prospect from the Yankees in July (Trenton reliever Tommy Kahnle). "NOPE"..."We like this guy more". Says Kahnle has control issues too


Heyman just won't let this go. It's this year's Give Lee to the Dodgers.

I asked him about this last night, and to his credit, he responded.

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@mcareyTU #s looks better. beyond that would have saved a few extra mil.


The numbers are a little better, but not overwhelmingly so. Rasmussen's AAA numbers were awful this year, but Kahnle is a reliever who hasn't gotten out of AA yet. I don't know where he's getting the idea that the Phillies would be saving a few extra mill. Unless the Yankees were willing to pick up MY's contract without the Texas money coming with, which seems incredibly unlikely, the Phillies only spent around $1M on MY10 between July 31st and August 31st

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby ReadingPhilly » Sun Sep 01, 2013 19:24:27

bleh wrote:he's been 2009 Brad Lidge bad for 2 full years.


was awesome at one point which is good enough for me. throw enough shit out there and something is likely to stick.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Bucky » Sun Sep 01, 2013 20:26:12

Doll Is Mine wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:
RasmussenRob
Extremely grateful for the opportunity the Dodgers gave me. A first class organization filled will people I will miss being around. However, I could not be more excited to join another first class and storied organization like the Phillies!


Storied is right.


i think his fax was smudged, because they interpreted the "n" as "ri".

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Polar Bear Phan » Sun Sep 01, 2013 23:04:09

mcare89 wrote:
Grotewold wrote:
BigEd76 wrote:SMUG shot down Heyman's report that the Phils could've gotten a better prospect from the Yankees in July (Trenton reliever Tommy Kahnle). "NOPE"..."We like this guy more". Says Kahnle has control issues too


Heyman just won't let this go. It's this year's Give Lee to the Dodgers.

I asked him about this last night, and to his credit, he responded.

Jon Heyman ‏@JonHeymanCBS 18h

@mcareyTU #s looks better. beyond that would have saved a few extra mil.


The numbers are a little better, but not overwhelmingly so. Rasmussen's AAA numbers were awful this year, but Kahnle is a reliever who hasn't gotten out of AA yet. I don't know where he's getting the idea that the Phillies would be saving a few extra mill. Unless the Yankees were willing to pick up MY's contract without the Texas money coming with, which seems incredibly unlikely, the Phillies only spent around $1M on MY10 between July 31st and August 31st


Yankees were going to pick up the rest of the contract (the Phillies portion), while the Phillies are sending money to the Dodgers. Texas is paying the same annual amount in all scenarios.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Doll Is Mine » Sun Sep 01, 2013 23:39:44

Kendrick

"Like I've said before, I just have to keep pitching and hope that things turn around sooner rather than later," Kendrick said. "I'm going to keep taking the ball, I know that."


Please stop giving him the ball.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby wwry » Sun Sep 01, 2013 23:42:11

"yup sometimes during warm ups he'll literally take the baseball home with him" Dubee said about Kendrick "i couldn't really give [expletive deleted]"
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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby Trent Steele » Mon Sep 02, 2013 00:14:43

I guess we don't bump the other KK thread anymore. The one where we track his quality starts and talk about how resigning him for 4/40 would be smart. Probably for the best.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby BigEd76 » Mon Sep 02, 2013 00:32:21

McDonald on the trade to Boston:

"It’s a very comfortable situation to walk into. Obviously where we are in the standings, that's a good place to be. It’s where everyone wants to be, first place right now. So just try and contribute and do my part."

McDonald said he hadn't been thinking about being dealt.

"No, not really, just coming to the ballpark, trying to prepare. When you’re out of a race I guess in the back of your mind you hope that you’ll get the opportunity to go somewhere to play in a pennant race, especially as you put more years in the game and you know you don’t have as many years left, everyone wants that opportunity to be part of a team that’s going into October."

As for coming home, he said, "My daughter was very excited last night. She can’t wait for me to come home and hang out and then put her to bed tonight. Everyone’s pretty excited. But growing up in Connecticut they’re happy to have me back in New England, it’s just the Yankee fans, they’re on the other side of the fence. But growing up in New England, and getting to play in Fenway, and to put this uniform on today, it’s pretty awesome."


and Mattingly says MY will be the backup 1B and 3B

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:06:06

Two men have been arrested for breaking into Wrigley Field and attempting to steal ivy from the historic ballpark, according to multiple media reports.

Kevin Burge and Steven Gudknecht, both 25, were charged with misdemeanor trespassing after being arrested at 3:45 a.m. CT at the stadium, police told the Chicago Sun-Times and the Chicago Tribune.

The men, who are both from Chalfont, Pa., entered the ballpark by squeezing through metal security bars but were spotted by security guards on closed-circuit surveillance cameras, according to the reports.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby smitty » Mon Sep 02, 2013 12:51:46

Trent Steele wrote:I guess we don't bump the other KK thread anymore. The one where we track his quality starts and talk about how resigning him for 4/40 would be smart. Probably for the best.


Most likely because there's no such thread. The actual thing he was really good at was allowing two or fewer runs in his starts. That is MUCH better than a mere quality start. He had a better percentage of doing that in his starts than Hamels, Halladay and pretty much everyone else for a shockingly long time.

That was the gist of that thread. He doesn't have great stuff. He isn't very good. He was incredibly lucky to even have had a big league career. Yet, he has made the most of it. He is a hero.

In addition to having an incredible amount of starts that are better than quality starts, I'd bet he has a very large number of disaster starts and near disaster starts. He's a girl with a curl pitcher.

I'm also pretty sure the other main theme in that thread was we were hoping we could trade him for something. Maybe two good reliefers or something.

Facts. I hate when they get in the way of a good story.

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Re: Random Phillies Thoughts and Tired Schtick

Postby wwry » Mon Sep 02, 2013 14:22:45

smitty. there is definitely a thread about tracking KK's quality starts. and its awesome.
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