Trent Steele wrote:Jimmy has been bad this year and maybe it's over for him.

Then again, in 2011-12, only Reyes had a higher WAR than Jimmy among SS in all of MLB. Acting like he's been in some massive decline over the last few years is absurd. Maybe he's just having a bad year.

nycphils wrote:

BigEd76 wrote:Steaks says the Phils are interested in Bernadina

Does not appear to offer much. Another lefty bat but not a big platoon split.

smitty wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:Jimmy has been bad this year and maybe it's over for him.

Then again, in 2011-12, only Reyes had a higher WAR than Jimmy among SS in all of MLB. Acting like he's been in some massive decline over the last few years is absurd. Maybe he's just having a bad year.

I hope it is just a bad year. I'm hoping for a 1980/1983/1993 type season for the Phillies next season. Pete Incaviglia played by Darin Ruf. Mitch Williams played by Diekman. Lonnie Smith played by Ben Revere. Righty Martin is Marty Bystrom. Ryne Sandberg as Ivan DeJesus and Chuck Conners as the Sarge.

Rollins is comeback player of the year and Domonic Brown wins the Conn Smythe Trophy.

It could happen.

smitty wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:Jimmy has been bad this year and maybe it's over for him.

Then again, in 2011-12, only Reyes had a higher WAR than Jimmy among SS in all of MLB. Acting like he's been in some massive decline over the last few years is absurd. Maybe he's just having a bad year.

I hope it is just a bad year. I'm hoping for a 1980/1983/1993 type season for the Phillies next season. Pete Incaviglia played by Darin Ruf. Mitch Williams played by Diekman. Lonnie Smith played by Ben Revere. Righty Martin is Marty Bystrom. Ryne Sandberg as Ivan DeJesus and Chuck Conners as the Sarge.

Rollins is comeback player of the year and Domonic Brown wins the Conn Smythe Trophy.

It could happen.

smitty wrote:

Trent Steele wrote:Jimmy has been bad this year and maybe it's over for him.

Then again, in 2011-12, only Reyes had a higher WAR than Jimmy among SS in all of MLB. Acting like he's been in some massive decline over the last few years is absurd. Maybe he's just having a bad year.

I hope it is just a bad year. I'm hoping for a 1980/1983/1993 type season for the Phillies next season. Pete Incaviglia played by Darin Ruf. Mitch Williams played by Diekman. Lonnie Smith played by Ben Revere. Righty Martin is Marty Bystrom. Ryne Sandberg as Ivan DeJesus and Chuck Conners as the Sarge.

Rollins is comeback player of the year and Domonic Brown wins the Conn Smythe Trophy.

It could happen.

JFLNYC wrote:It was easier to overlook the first-pitch pop outs.

Soren wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:It was easier to overlook the first-pitch pop outs.

Thanks, WIP caller! He has a career .325/.327/.503 batting line swinging at the first pitch FYI

Soren wrote:my point stands that this idea that he's a sub replacement hitter swinging first pitch is ridiculous

JFLNYC wrote:the first-pitch pop outs

Ace Rothstein wrote:

Soren wrote:my point stands that this idea that he's a sub replacement hitter swinging first pitch is ridiculous

can you put up his 1st pitch swinging stats since the start of his new contract?

Soren wrote:

JFLNYC wrote:the first-pitch pop outs

JFLNYC wrote:It's not so much what Sandberg said about Jimmy, it's that anyone could reasonably believe it will makes a difference. I don't want to say it's impossible for a mid-30's hitter to change his approach significantly, but it's rare. And on the list of good candidates, Jimmy is near the bottom. Jimmy is Jimmy and he's very set in his ways.

When he had his power and speed, it was easy to overlook a so-so BA and OBP. It was easier to overlook the first-pitch pop outs. But now that his plus skills have diminished, his weaknesses are more noticeable. Low BA, low OBP, no power, average speed, average range. His only remaining plus quality is his sure-handedness.

I take nothing away from his many accomplishments. He's the greatest SS in Phillies history. But, in a meritocracy, he'd be a utility player at this point in his career. To my eyes it looks like his primary concern is to stay healthy so he can get his well-deserved Phillies records and collect his paychecks. We may yet see flashes of vintage Jimmy, but his skills have eroded and they're not coming back.