At least Rube didn't trade Franco for a middle reliever #progress

At least Asche and Ruf are both playing, which really is the main problem with keeping the Youngs.

guess dom will have to sit when he comes back.

there's another trade deadline

who'd we get??

CalvinBall wrote:guess dom will have to sit when he comes back.

Has a week to do something with Delmon.

i think in the end, noone was that interested in m.young so whatever. from the sound of it, the kids are still gonna play

Napalm wrote:i think in the end, noone was that interested in m.young so whatever. from the sound of it, the kids are still gonna play

but SUSDORF

Amaro didn't shoot down chance of Franco winning a spot in Spring Training per Gelb.

The Nightman Cometh wrote:Amaro didn't shoot down chance of Franco winning a spot in Spring Training per Gelb.

Wouldn't expect him to say anything else at this point.

Great trade! Who'd we ge ... wait, what?!?!?!?!?!?!!?

Just read BP article by a guy from around here. He's some kind of smart guy. Anyway, he did this study using all sorts of terms and regression analysis chats and stuff I don't understand.

The study looked at GMs and their trading record. Amaro wasn't the greatest. He was second behind Dombrowski.

Basically, the Phillies got tons of WAR from Halladay, Oswalt and Pence and the guys we gave up for him haven't done much (yet, in several cases).

The bottom line is Amaro got a lot of value from guys he traded for and the guys he traded have yet to accumulate much in the way of value.

they can probably deal young in august anyway. they really need to use the rest of the year to see what they have in asche and ruf though. it'd be really dumb to sit one of them in favor of young.

Salisbury says there was no interest in Young, Ruiz or Papelbon.

There were really a whole bunch of guys who SHOULD have been traded that weren't all over the big leagues. Kendrys Morales, Mike Morse, Marlon Byrd, Numerous Giants. Who else?

No one wanted to give up anything for pretty much anyone. Pretty weird.

Next time everyone says it makes sense to wait because "Player X" will be more valuable at the trade deadline, should remember today. I don't think that is the case anymore. If it ever was.

Squire wrote:Next time everyone says it makes sense to wait because "Player X" will be more valuable at the trade deadline, should remember today. I don't think that is the case anymore. If it ever was.

When people make this argument, it's usually about a good player who teams will want just as much on July 31st as they will on June 15th. Cliff Lee is an example of this. Michael Young is not.

Well, Schierholz stayed put. It wouldn't have been much fun to see him moved for a big return.

The appeal of the deadline is the seeming opportunity to get much better quickly. It rarely works out that way, though.

It just seems like the league is changing. Teams are building from within and extending all their elite players. And they're not parting with their top prospects. Have top prospects ever been as valuable they seem to be right now?

dajafi wrote:Well, Schierholz stayed put. It wouldn't have been much fun to see him moved for a big return.

this would not have been fun to see for me