Productive Outs - Phillies Random Thoughts

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:36:38

And it was in the most competitive division in baseball that year. Very weird season.

Arizona Diamondbacks 90 72 .556 ---
Colorado Rockies 90 73 .552 0.5
San Diego Padres 89 74 .546 1.5
Los Angeles Dodgers 82 80 .506 8.0
San Francisco Giants 71 91 .438 19.0

Website · by **Wolfgang622** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:41:47

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Jaffe wrote a THIS IS WHY THE PHILLIES NEED TO TRADE CLIFF LEE NOW column on SI

Biggest news in that article: Delmon Young is only 27!?!?!?!?!?! I thought he was like 33.

by **Napalm** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:42:45

mozartpc27 wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Jaffe wrote a THIS IS WHY THE PHILLIES NEED TO TRADE CLIFF LEE NOW column on SI

Biggest news in that article: Delmon Young is only 27!?!?!?!?!?! I thought he was like 33.

drinks the blood of virgins to stay Young

by **Grotewold** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:45:01

For comparison, the Nats are also bad (4-8) in "blowout" games, but they account for a -42 compared to our -60. They're 8-4 in one-run games

by **RichmondPhilsFan** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:46:13

Napalm wrote:
mozartpc27 wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:Jaffe wrote a THIS IS WHY THE PHILLIES NEED TO TRADE CLIFF LEE NOW column on SI

Biggest news in that article: Delmon Young is only 27!?!?!?!?!?! I thought he was like 33.

drinks the blood of virgins to stay Young

Or drinks the blood of Larry King to look 10 years older.

by **Grotewold** » Thu May 23, 2013 11:47:08

Drinks manischewitz

just to be a dick

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:06:32

Grotewold wrote:
Jaffe wrote: the Phillies’ -34 run differential is the third-worst in the league

Is this instructive? I'm honestly asking. We're 4-10 in "blowout" games (5+ runs) and 4-7 in one-run games. I'm not seeing where our record isn't sustainable

Brush up on your Pythagorean, buddy

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:08:32

Napalm wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
pacino wrote:that was one depressing article by jaffe

But after the Phillies sweep the Nats, his next column will be "Don't count these Phillies out just yet"

schoenfield already did it last night

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/ ... -be-buyers

Oh man, I love this Michael Young logic. Can't ground into double plays if he leads off!

by **Trent Steele** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:28:25

PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
Napalm wrote:
PTOITWCFTPP wrote:
pacino wrote:that was one depressing article by jaffe

But after the Phillies sweep the Nats, his next column will be "Don't count these Phillies out just yet"

schoenfield already did it last night

http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/ ... -be-buyers

Oh man, I love this Michael Young logic. Can't ground into double plays if he leads off!

I agree that they should try to bat him leadoff if he's going to continue his strong BB rate

by **Trent Steele** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:32:34

Grotewold wrote:For comparison, the Nats are also bad (4-8) in "blowout" games, but they account for a -42 compared to our -60. They're 8-4 in one-run games

I think the difference is due to the godawful underbelly of the bullpen. We turn 5-3 games into 10-3 games. That hurts your pythag, but it has a real effect too in that it makes it impossible to win games when your starter doesn't go 6 innings. There aren't many games we win 6-5 where we were losing in the 5th inning. That's a real problem.

by **Bill McNeal** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:40:32

Wrt to the run differential issue, I did not read the jaffee article, so the run differential is -34 on the season right, but our run differential in games started by Halladay, who is no longer on the active roster, is -31.

by **dajafi** » Thu May 23, 2013 12:58:42

To summarize: we still don't know. The middle relief is fixable; think about the 2011 Cardinals, or the 2007 Phillies, who had awful bullpens until they didn't. Rollins hasn't done much yet. Howard neither.

It's a middling team right now. We'll have a much better idea in a month, I think.

And I was on the MY leadoff train like a week ago...

by gr » Thu May 23, 2013 13:18:34

Yeah, the good news is, they're not playing all that great and still .500. The bad news is, how healthy are they going to be?

Has anyone pointed out that the Barves are sub 500 since their 13-2 start?

by **Grotewold** » Thu May 23, 2013 13:29:55

Trent Steele wrote:
Grotewold wrote:For comparison, the Nats are also bad (4-8) in "blowout" games, but they account for a -42 compared to our -60. They're 8-4 in one-run games

I think the difference is due to the godawful underbelly of the bullpen. We turn 5-3 games into 10-3 games. That hurts your pythag, but it has a real effect too in that it makes it impossible to win games when your starter doesn't go 6 innings. There aren't many games we win 6-5 where we were losing in the 5th inning. That's a real problem.

That and two 14-2 losses with Halladay pitching through an injury, yeah. Just seems to me that we play a lot of close games (and have theoretically been a bit unlucky in the one-run ones) and basically deserve our record

by **Barry Jive** » Thu May 23, 2013 13:49:54

Bill McNeal wrote:Wrt to the run differential issue, I did not read the jaffee article, so the run differential is -34 on the season right, but our run differential in games started by Halladay, who is no longer on the active roster, is -31.

Halladay was replaced in the rotation by Tyler Cloyd

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Thu May 23, 2013 14:14:37

Barry Jive wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Wrt to the run differential issue, I did not read the jaffee article, so the run differential is -34 on the season right, but our run differential in games started by Halladay, who is no longer on the active roster, is -31.

Halladay was replaced in the rotation by Tyler Cloyd

+3 run differential with Cloyd

:results:

by **Grotewold** » Thu May 23, 2013 14:25:17

Barry Jive wrote:
Bill McNeal wrote:Wrt to the run differential issue, I did not read the jaffee article, so the run differential is -34 on the season right, but our run differential in games started by Halladay, who is no longer on the active roster, is -31.

Halladay was replaced in the rotation by Tyler Cloyd

I'd put money on him (or whoever else) beating an 8.65 ERA

by **Doll Is Mine** » Thu May 23, 2013 14:41:35

Ben Revere ‏@BenRevere9
Off day in D.C. might as well go say what's up to Obama and the family!

by **PTOITWCFTPP** » Thu May 23, 2013 14:53:52

Deadspin

This guy has his MacBook, iPad, and iPhone in the front row at the Marlins game. When security asked him to put it away he demanded that he had a Constitutional right to free speech that protected him. After arguing for a full inning with security, they relented. Then he gloated by waving his laptop around with the phone still attached, which could have been painful if anyone attended Marlins games.

by **ReadingPhilly** » Thu May 23, 2013 15:15:36

that's loblaw

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