2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby WilliamC » Tue Jun 05, 2012 18:50:09

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Tim (Philly)

Mentioned in your column that you liked the Philly pick. Was that Watson or Gueller (or both)?
Klaw (12:12 PM)

Both. That mention of drafts I liked was looking at team drafts as a whole, rather than just individual picks. I thought both guys were good value where they were taken.



I kind of like Keith Law. I seem to recall that you don't? I might be mistaken.
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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby FTN » Tue Jun 05, 2012 18:54:20

Jade (Philly)

Hearing Alec Rash out of Iowa was shooting up draft boards. Phils got him at #95. Thoughts?
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Kind of surprised he lasted that long - big kid up to 95 who can spin a breaking ball.

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby joe table » Tue Jun 05, 2012 19:31:33

13th-rounder Steven Golden. Interesting pick

http://www.perfectgame.org/players/play ... x?ID=85324


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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 19:49:06

14th-rd pick Ricky Bielski, 6'3" 190 RHP

http://www.thespokesman.org/sports/2012 ... al-drafts/

Bielski has been projected as high as the third round by MLB draft experts. Bielski has received interest from major league teams including the Seattle Mariners, St. Louis Cardinals, and Philadelphia Phillies.

“I don’t care where I get picked, I’m just stoked to get my chance to prove myself to professional teams,” said Bielski. “I’m just going to make the most of the draft experience and work hard to get to the big leagues wherever I go.”

Bielski is coveted by many teams due to his power arm. Clocked at as high as 94 miles per hour, Bielski could throw as high as the upper 90’s as he grows. Currently, there are only a few major league pitchers that reach the upper 90’s with regularity. But Bielski’s fastball isn’t the only thing he has going for him.

“[He throws] four quality pitches,” said varsity pitching coach Duane Page, a former professional scout for the Kansas City Royals. “That’s the key to success at the next level, being able to throw multiple pitches for strikes.”
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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby joe table » Tue Jun 05, 2012 19:50:05

11throunder William Carmona

http://www.goseawolves.org/sports/m-bas ... iam00.html

Comes on :24 secs in to video



12th rounder Zachary Taylor (transfer from UGA)

http://www.thecoastalsource.com/content ... ZWwjw.cspx

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby joe table » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:13:14

Phillies are known 2 b cheap when it comes to dreafting

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby kruker » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:13:42

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
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The Longhorns' streak of producing at least one player in the first five rounds of every draft since 1999 is in jeopardy this year. Milner is the only early-round candidate for Texas, and he pitched his way out of their rotation after three starts. A valuable swingman who appeared in 33 of Texas' 50 regular season games, Milner projects as a reliever because he hasn't been able to add strength or velocity in three years of college. A slender 6-foot-2 and 165 pounds, he works with an 86-88 mph fastball as a starter, sits at 88-89 and tops out at 91 when he comes out of the bullpen. His best pitch is a 75-78 mph curveball with good depth, and he uses a changeup to keep righthanders at bay. His stuff plays up because he commands it so well, and he delivers his pitches on a tough angle to the plate. He's the son of Brian Milner, who went straight from high school to the majors as an eight-round bonus baby with the Blue Jays in 1978.

Apparently not well enough to stay in the rotation in the Big 12.


Milner isn't a bad pick. He's got good stuff and decent enough command. He'll make it to the show. Really needs to put on weight. Wore down quick when I saw him against Stanford.

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Eem » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:16:59

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby joe table » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:17:34

This deserved to be posted without any editing

I agree the Phil’s have reached for a pos. for a number of years now and have targeted a position with multiple picks. That could be a lack of confidence due to their inability to draft outstanding position players lately. It may be time to also think about reassessing their theory on drafting athletic, speedy outfielders with little track record. They are now reaching the top of the system and I don’t think any of them are setting the world on fire. I think I like the Braves theory better . Draft athletic middle inf’ers you can always move them to 2b, 3b, or the of if one blocks the way. They have been quite successful lately. I think the have three ss in their top ten now. Let’s see if that boast of spending their bonus comes true. I have seen a digression for a while now on spending in the draft and internationally. Free Agency got us where we are now. If they don’t replenish I see a down ward trend. Solar was signed wrongly by the Cubs and was just put back on the FA market after an investigation. The Cub’s signed him underage. According to the MLB bylaws the Cubs should lose either money or draft picks. Baseball America reported this in the spring. MLB has not spoken on the matter except to put Solar back on the FA market .

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby Eem » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:20:03

Gotta point

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby BigEd76 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:22:39

HobyMilner
I'm so excited about today! Thankful for everything #phillies

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby joe table » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:26:57

so they don't get a position player, like they were targeting, but instead get a RHP? WTF?


Purely a money decision...sign High schoolers on the cheap and hope they come along in 2-3 years. This smacks of PURE RUBE!!!


@spittoon, you are correct. It's never a good idea to draft a kid that young who's already mastered the curveball...bone chips and TJ surgery are probably right around the corner. It is a competitive league out there as a poster already said, which means he probably had to throw it 50% of the time so look out!

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby FTN » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:28:09

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby FTN » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:29:03

ruin tomorrow jr got a nice groupon discount, 5 tom john surgeries for the price of 3, so we're all set.

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:47:57

kruker wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
FTN wrote:
The Longhorns' streak of producing at least one player in the first five rounds of every draft since 1999 is in jeopardy this year. Milner is the only early-round candidate for Texas, and he pitched his way out of their rotation after three starts. A valuable swingman who appeared in 33 of Texas' 50 regular season games, Milner projects as a reliever because he hasn't been able to add strength or velocity in three years of college. A slender 6-foot-2 and 165 pounds, he works with an 86-88 mph fastball as a starter, sits at 88-89 and tops out at 91 when he comes out of the bullpen. His best pitch is a 75-78 mph curveball with good depth, and he uses a changeup to keep righthanders at bay. His stuff plays up because he commands it so well, and he delivers his pitches on a tough angle to the plate. He's the son of Brian Milner, who went straight from high school to the majors as an eight-round bonus baby with the Blue Jays in 1978.

Apparently not well enough to stay in the rotation in the Big 12.


Milner isn't a bad pick. He's got good stuff and decent enough command. He'll make it to the show. Really needs to put on weight. Wore down quick when I saw him against Stanford.

I was only speaking to the seemingly disparate comments. If the guy has great command, he shouldn't lose his place in the rotation. But I have no problem with a long reliever/spot starter with control.

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby WilliamC » Tue Jun 05, 2012 20:57:18

joe table wrote:This deserved to be posted without any editing

I agree the Phil’s have reached for a pos. for a number of years now and have targeted a position with multiple picks. That could be a lack of confidence due to their inability to draft outstanding position players lately. It may be time to also think about reassessing their theory on drafting athletic, speedy outfielders with little track record. They are now reaching the top of the system and I don’t think any of them are setting the world on fire. I think I like the Braves theory better . Draft athletic middle inf’ers you can always move them to 2b, 3b, or the of if one blocks the way. They have been quite successful lately. I think the have three ss in their top ten now. Let’s see if that boast of spending their bonus comes true. I have seen a digression for a while now on spending in the draft and internationally. Free Agency got us where we are now. If they don’t replenish I see a down ward trend. Solar was signed wrongly by the Cubs and was just put back on the FA market after an investigation. The Cub’s signed him underage. According to the MLB bylaws the Cubs should lose either money or draft picks. Baseball America reported this in the spring. MLB has not spoken on the matter except to put Solar back on the FA market .



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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby The Savior » Tue Jun 05, 2012 21:16:09

all white dudes huh
On a scale of 1 to Chris Brown, how pissed is he?

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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby PhillyPhan » Tue Jun 05, 2012 21:22:16

So whats the general consensus here?
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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby td11 » Tue Jun 05, 2012 21:26:39

joe table wrote:
Phillies are known 2 b cheap when it comes to dreafting
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Re: 2012 Draft: Phillies picks, bios, signings, etc.

Postby joe table » Tue Jun 05, 2012 21:26:46

The Savior wrote:all white dudes huh


Golden and Carmona are non-honky

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