Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to Us

Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:19:22

A lot of that was from when he was there earlier in the year. Since he's gone back down he's hitting .193 in 18 games with 2 XBH. The only real positive is he's walked a lot.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby SK790 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:21:19

Still talking about a month sample size.
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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby VFB » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:22:17

shoulda kept taylor

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby phdave » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:26:50

bleh wrote:And Thome has a .878 OPS. There's no chance in hell he would make it to the Phils on waivers.


In 2009 Thome had an OPS of .864 when traded to the Dodgers. The Dodgers were 78-54 at the time, the top record in the NL.

It might not happen again but basically the same thing happened two years ago.
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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby phdave » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:28:00

lethal wrote:Why not Brown for that spot in the playoffs? I'm sure they could get him on the roster by 8/31.


I'll take him instead of Gload but if they have a chance at another more reliable left handed bat they should try to do it.
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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby mcare89 » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:29:14

How often are players that are clearly getting waived for trade purposes actually claimed? I'm actually curious, because it seems like plenty of guys clear that really shouldn't, and the only guys that are claimed are for the purposes of blocking a trade, or if there's a possibility they can actually get them for nothing.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby phdave » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:31:22

I just noticed that Gload is playing 1st. Are they trying to lay the groundwork for putting him on the DL?
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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby VFB » Thu Aug 18, 2011 19:39:29

mcare89 wrote:How often are players that are clearly getting waived for trade purposes actually claimed? I'm actually curious, because it seems like plenty of guys clear that really shouldn't, and the only guys that are claimed are for the purposes of blocking a trade, or if there's a possibility they can actually get them for nothing.

It's been said that around 85% of the league is placed on waivers, and nobody really claims anyone

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby bleh » Thu Aug 18, 2011 20:33:05

SK790 wrote:Still talking about a month sample size.


He's hasn't been good since the first half of June. And he's only gotten worse since they sent him down, so why call him up? Let him figure things out. He's not going to get better getting 3 ABs per week.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby Benny Lava » Thu Aug 18, 2011 20:38:41

bleh wrote:
SK790 wrote:Still talking about a month sample size.


He's hasn't been good since the first half of June. And he's only gotten worse since they sent him down, so why call him up? Let him figure things out. He's not going to get better getting 3 ABs per week.

He had a .390 wOBA and an OBP over .400 from late June to late July, that isn't "not good" , its elite. His slugging was low, but he had a hand injury in spring training that's notorious for sapping a players power. The fact that his strongest skill is getting on-base, to me, is the biggest reassurance you can ask for from a young player.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby bleh » Thu Aug 18, 2011 20:49:23

His OBP was high largely because of his .380 BABIP in July. It would be around .340 if his BABIP was normal.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Aug 18, 2011 21:01:18

We are looking for a lh bat with pop for the bench. Yes brown has a fantastic obp, but two xbh over the last month tell the story to me. And as Benny pointed out, his injury is notorious for sapping power. At this point just let him finish the season in aaa, bring him up when rosters expand/phills clinch and get him some regular pt in the outfield then. In the meantime try to get thome or someone else who can blast one every once in a while.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Aug 18, 2011 21:36:35

VFB wrote:shoulda kept taylor


Taylor's hitting .143 over his last ten games. That's the problem with baseball. Everybody sucks.
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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby LongDrive » Thu Aug 18, 2011 22:27:57

mcare89 wrote:
A left-handed hitting suggestion for the Phillies
3 minutes ago by KenRosenthal

Imagine Johnny Damon with the Phillies.

The Phillies would like to add a left-handed hitter for their bench. As of Thursday, two commonly mentioned possibilities - the Rockies’ Jason Giambi and Twins’ Jim Thome – had yet to be placed on trade waivers.

When Giambi and Thome do hit the waiver wire, other contenders are virtually certain to claim them – and other similar types – to block the Phillies from making a move.

Damon, on the other hand, already has cleared waivers, according to major-league sources. He has never played for a National League club. He has never been a part-time player. But he certainly would be an upgrade over Ross Gload, the Phillies’ current left-handed hitting reserve.

The Phillies, as usual, profess to be at their budgetary limit. Damon, though, has only about $1.25 million left on his contract. That number will drop to $830,000 on Aug. 31, the deadline for teams to set their post-season rosters. The Rays could include cash to secure a better prospect in the deal.

Damon, 37, is batting .263/.316/.398 for the Rays, with 10 homers in 492 at-bats. Gload, 35, is playing with a torn muscle in his right hip. He is 0-for-6 in August and 3-for-25 since the end of June, and has yet to hit a home run in 76 at-bats.

-Ken Rosenthal


This is how it always starts. Damon will be a Phillies by next week.



I was thinking about Damon as an option the other night when Gload looked so awful in the first game of this series. Would LOVE this but would he want to be a platoon/bench type player?

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby joe table » Thu Aug 18, 2011 22:31:29

I don't think he is good/young enough to be a diva about playing time. Damon would probably love to just shoot the shit with some chill Phillies bros and drink 8 redbulls a game and make a run at Jen and fart in Kendirk's hat when he's at bat

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby EndlessSummer » Thu Aug 18, 2011 22:34:18

joe table wrote:Damon would probably love to just shoot the #$&! with some chill Phillies bros and drink 8 redbulls a game and make a run at Jen and fart in Kendirk's hat when he's at bat

This nearly made beer shoot out of my nose. Well played.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby The B1G Piece » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:32:35

Bastardo:

287 ERA+
0.729 WHIP
3.5 H/9
10.2 K/9
3.31 K/BB

He has given up 18 hits. Holy shit.

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby FTN » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:52:42

I think we're going to trade Brown for Asdrubal Cabrera this winter, Rollins will head to Oakland, and Yayberry will be the starting LF

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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby swishnicholson » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:53:18

joe table wrote:I don't think he is good/young enough to be a diva about playing time. Damon would probably love to just shoot the #$&! with some chill Phillies bros and drink 8 redbulls a game and make a run at Jen and fart in Kendirk's hat when he's at bat


Diva or not, Damon has 2690 hits at age 37, so I imagine playing time is still something important to him. Whether or not Jen Utley outweighs that consideration, I couldn't say, though I guess I'm just about the only one who couldn't.
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Re: Random Phils Stuff VII: All Your Baseball Are Belong to

Postby slugsrbad » Fri Aug 19, 2011 15:46:08

"We have no chance to compete with Philly or Boston or New York on major league players," said a high-ranking exec of one small-market club. "Our only hope is to overpay and bring in as much talent on the amateur level as we can. The reason you see teams like the Pirates and Royals going crazy at the bottom end is they feel like it's their one chance to compete."


If the vague source didn't give it away, this is from Stark's "Rumblings" column.
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