Oh FFS, the EPL kicks off and other random soccer stuff

by **FTN** » Wed Jan 18, 2012 20:11:23

man i hate both of those teams

by **FTN** » Fri Jan 20, 2012 20:10:11

Brazil legend Pele says Barcelona's Argentina star Lionel Messi has a long way to go to be considered his rival as the greatest player of all time.

Messi, 24, has won Fifa's Ballon d'Or for the best player in the world for a third successive year.

But Pele thinks he needs to improve for Argentina and score more goals.

He's a great player for Barcelona, but when he plays for Argentina he doesn't have the same success.

"When Messi's scored 1,283 goals like me, when he's won three World Cups, we'll talk about it," Pele told French newspaper Le Monde.

what a classless shitbag.

he scored 1,000 goals playing in the brazilian league. if messi was playing in the brazilian league he'd score 100 goals a season.

what a joke

by **jeff2sf** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 15:02:19

Deuce with the hat trick - Arsenal should have ponied up in the summer.

by **SK790** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 15:26:27

Robbie Keane with a brace for Villa. :lol:

by **cartersDad26** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 23:38:10

Liverpool's effort today was for shit. Awful all around performance.

by **jerseyhoya** » Sat Jan 21, 2012 23:58:24

I have no idea how we haven't scored

Fuck this goalie

by **jerseyhoya** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 00:08:22

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

HAHAHA, 7th minute of stoppage time

USA USA USA

FUCK YOU CHAVEZ

by **iladelph53** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 10:55:19

COME ON YOU SPURS!

by **FTN** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:06:10

wait, the arsenal game isnt on any channel? wtf

by **FTN** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:06:33

nevermind, its on regular Fox. weird

by **FTN** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 12:50:51

this is the worst arsenal side ive seen in my lifetime.

by **FTN** » Sun Jan 22, 2012 13:13:56

unbelievable miss

by **SK790** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:32:01

Think the whole thread can unite in hating the entire city of Manchester...

If only Defoe were 3 inches taller...

by **BuddyGroom** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:34:04

SK790 wrote:Think the whole thread can unite in hating the entire city of Manchester...

If only Defoe were 3 inches taller...

Wait, we're supposed to hate City too? I had kind of decided that if Newcastle gets relegated again, I was going to become a City fan.

by **Soren** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:37:34

BuddyGroom wrote:
SK790 wrote:Think the whole thread can unite in hating the entire city of Manchester...

If only Defoe were 3 inches taller...

Wait, we're supposed to hate City too? I had kind of decided that if Newcastle gets relegated again, I was going to become a City fan.

by **SK790** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:38:01

You don't have to hate anyone. I know I hate City. I'm sure the other Spurs fans in this thread and the Arsenal fans hate them as well. They're Chelsea 10 years ago.

by **BuddyGroom** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:40:43

Honest question for the people here who really follow international soccer - I really can't claim to be anything more than a casual fan.

Where do you think MLS ranks currently among the world's professional leagues? I ask because I read an article recently where somebody said that for South American players, they used to see MLS as "the retirement league" but now they take it a lot more seriously.

Obviously, the EPL is the world's best league. I would imagine La Liga is a solid second, followed in some order by Italy, Germany and France. Where does the U.S. figure? Ahead of or behind Argentina? In the mix with the other Euro leagues after the top five?

by **SK790** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:43:43

I'm not an expert by any means, but I'd figure it's a bit worse than the Mexican league and a bit better than Asian leagues. It's a pretty big drop from Europe, that's for sure.

by **FTN** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:53:14

BuddyGroom wrote:Honest question for the people here who really follow international soccer - I really can't claim to be anything more than a casual fan.

Where do you think MLS ranks currently among the world's professional leagues? I ask because I read an article recently where somebody said that for South American players, they used to see MLS as "the retirement league" but now they take it a lot more seriously.

Obviously, the EPL is the world's best league. I would imagine La Liga is a solid second, followed in some order by Italy, Germany and France. Where does the U.S. figure? Ahead of or behind Argentina? In the mix with the other Euro leagues after the top five?

I dont really follow MLS, but here is how I'd rank the leagues right now

EPL
La Liga
Ligue 1
Bundesliga
Primeira Liga (Portugal)
Eredivisie
Russian Premier League
SPL
Brazilian League
A-League
Championship
MLS

I don't watch the Mexican League at all, so I can't compare. The top 4 leagues are a class above the rest, then I'd say portugal, holland, and russia are in a class of their own, then the SPL/Brazilian/A-League/Championship (UK) are in their own tier, then MLS. There are teams in the 2nd tier in England that would win MLS in a walk. The game is so much faster in the leagues I ranked above MLS.

by **FTN** » Mon Jan 23, 2012 15:58:20

i might have undersold the Russian League. But like portugal/holland, the league is top heavy at the moment.

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