2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby phdave » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:28:02

But his ERA was 0 on April 4th so once again karn is right. Never question karn!
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby karn » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:34:06

especially if youre a cop lol

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby karn » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:34:27

i hate the polanco

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby karn » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:35:23

ek i am jamming jack straw from europe 72 over and over

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby 5th Round Pick » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:40:40

Amaro says we're not getting anyone to play third base on the waiver wire.

So, who we getting on the waiver wire to play third base?!?
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:45:24

from zo

"Amaro said he is hopeful Polanco can play through the injury, much like Raul Ibanez played through it in 2009. Amaro added Polanco’s injury does not seem to be nearly as severe as Ibanez’s. Ibanez’s required offseason surgery."


ugh, I'm sorta hoping he will get surgery instead of sucking more
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby CFP » Mon Aug 08, 2011 21:46:29

If he gets the surgery now, he'll be back just in time to hit .256/.304/.298 in the playoffs!

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby Bill McNeal » Tue Aug 09, 2011 09:43:29

On the Phillies: Baseball got suspension all wrong

A "no comment" from the Phillies' speed-talking centerfielder is the baseball equivalent of an "I'm not hungry" from Andy Reid.

The silence spoke volumes. It was a clear indication that Victorino was thinking exactly what every Phillies fan - every reasonable person, really - was thinking: Garagiola Jr. got it terribly wrong. Perhaps he should have opted to do what his annoying announcer/father would have done: let Tony Kubek sort out anything remotely connected to baseball itself.

In effect, by merely fining Ramon Ramirez and Eli Whiteside, Garagiola Jr. implied that Victorino's anger was created in a vacuum.



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So when the Phils lead grew to 8-2 in the sixth and Victorino came to bat, reliever Ramon Ramirez drilled him in the back.

Victorino took a few steps toward the pitcher and probably would have done nothing more than talk him to a pulp if Giants catcher Eli Whiteside, bouncing on his toes like a very bad middleweight or a Castro District hoofer, hadn't decided to pull an Assante Samuel and go for Placido Polanco's knees.

It was Ramirez and Whiteside who triggered the wrestling match that ensued. And yet Garagiola Jr. merely fined them, along with Polanco, who was guilty of nothing more than trying to protect a teammate.

But Victorino got a three-game suspension.

MLB undoubtedly will say that Victorino warranted the suspension because he broke free from umpire Mike Muchlinski, who controlled the Phils centerfielder no better than he did the prelude to the fracas or the game.

But a 90-plus m.p.h. fastball to the back would provoke anyone, with the possible exception of Travis Lee.

So ask yourself this: If Ramirez doesn't hit Victorino and Whiteside doesn't tackle Polanco, would the incident have escalated beyond all the others that result in little more than words and gestures?


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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby CFP » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:02:59

Honestly, what was Muchlinski going to do? Predict that Ramirez was going to throw at Shane? Come on Brookover.

EDIT: My apologies, I now realize that was written by Frank Fitzpatrick. Well makes a lot more sense now that I know it came from an unprofessional and terrible writer.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby Soren » Tue Aug 09, 2011 10:31:36

2007 pitching
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2011 pitching
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby Silence Sarge » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:34:51

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains SF-PHI fight penalties: If Victorino had gone to 1B, then only Ramirez would have been fined, for intentionally hitting.

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains: Pitchers only get suspended for throwing near somebody's head or after a warning (Weaver, for example); Ramirez did neither

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains: Victorino gets suspended for being very aggressive, pushing past the ump, and then dives into the pile and re-starts.

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains: Whiteside was aggressive, but he was viewed trying to defend his pitcher to a certain extent.


How the fuck?
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby The B1G Piece » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:36:53

Soren,

Thank you.

That is a fucking beautiful thing.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby Bill McNeal » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:37:17

Neyer : NL Cy Young Watch

Roy Halladay is going to win, unless he doesn't. After winning last night, he's 15-4 with a 2.51 ERA. He leads the N.L. in wins, and he's second in both winning percentage and ERA to Ryan Vogelsong, but Vogelsong's not going to win the Cy Young Award. Halladay's only competition comes from Cole Hamels (13-6, 2.53) and Clayton Kershaw (13-5, 2.79).

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:57:29

Silence Sarge wrote:Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains SF-PHI fight penalties: If Victorino had gone to 1B, then only Ramirez would have been fined, for intentionally hitting.

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains: Pitchers only get suspended for throwing near somebody's head or after a warning (Weaver, for example); Ramirez did neither

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains: Victorino gets suspended for being very aggressive, pushing past the ump, and then dives into the pile and re-starts.

Buster_ESPN Buster Olney
Source explains: Whiteside was aggressive, but he was viewed trying to defend his pitcher to a certain extent.


How the fuck?


polanco wasn't even running in. if whiteside doesn't tackle polanco then nothign happens at all and its just jawing back and forth. whiteside instigated the entire brawl.

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby PrattRules » Tue Aug 09, 2011 11:59:29

Whenever I look up the Phils starting pitcher stats, I'm always reminded that Valdez owned it that one night.
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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby jamiethekiller » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:00:25

also, isn't peanuthead the most non threatening player on the entire field at that time?

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby The B1G Piece » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:03:28


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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby joe table » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:08:16

The B1G Piece wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/14728/phillies-among-nls-greatest-ever

Must've passed over the desk of Buster TROLLney


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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby The Savior » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:08:47

20-7 since this thread was started

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Re: 2011 Random Phillies Stuff VI: Return Of The Nice Guy

Postby The B1G Piece » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:11:05

joe table wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:http://espn.go.com/blog/sweetspot/post/_/id/14728/phillies-among-nls-greatest-ever

Must've passed over the desk of Buster TROLLney


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