Send in tabasco sauce...that worked once.

Good - DOnald publicly says no more apprentice
Bad - Donal publicly says he has a 'majore new tv venture' coming

I really think Jericho would have done fine if CBS didn't fuck with it.

When much more popular and established shows lose viewers after the weeks of haitus you'd think they'd realize not to do it with a young show they are trying to promote.

Whatever.

Retards, all of 'em.

If Jericho had been on any other network than CBS, it would have thrived. But CBS really doesn't seem to care about putting out quality tv.

MarkdlV wrote:If Jericho had been on any other network than CBS, it would have thrived. But CBS really doesn't seem to care about putting out quality tv.

It's obvious that CBS is marketing towards a niche.


Lifetime- TV for women

Spike- TV for Guys

G4- TV for Geeks



CBS- TV for old people.

Jericho skewered old. It's demo numbers weren't anything to write home about.

It's difficult to schedule shows like Jericho, Lost, 24, Heroes, etc. In order to get the show on for all 3 sweeps months (November, February and May) is to schedule the shows like they do now. Fox takes a hit by not having 24 or American Idol on in November, but make up for it later on and still are #1 in the 18-49 demo.

CBS really sealed Jericho's fate themselves, with the long break in between episodes and little to no advertisement for its return. This whole business with serialized shows is trial and error. Networks are trying to figure out a way that works for all parties. But it appears the only way to do this is to hold the show off and run the episodes straight through. To do that, the need to accept the fact that show will be off the air of either November or May sweeps. Which is a hit some aren't willing to take.

Given the change in the medium, all parties involved should look into shortening the season, which currently is 39 weeks. With most shows running 22 episodes, that leaves a lot of time for repeats, which really don't work these days. People have a million different options for in-home entertainment, and network TV is just one of many. It's no longer one of two or three. But TV has been consistently behind the ball and unwilling to change their ways, something that is eventually going to hurt them if they continue to schedule shows the way they do.

Im amazed that they havent switched to 2 seasons on network TV- winter/spring and summer/fall.

That might be a possibility down the road. But people are so used to shows premiering in the fall, could everyone really get used an entirely new schedule in the spring?

The best bet is to do away with sweeps in general. That way, serialized shows can premiere in the fall and run with limited repeats and end in the march or april. If they start up the next September, things will be fine.

The biggest concern for people, I believe, is extended breaks. That means shows have to air their first episode of the season the same time every year (this hurt the Sopranos). They also can't do it 6+ week breaks in season. Airing 5 episodes followed by 2 repeats and another 5 episodes isn't a problem. It's the week on/week off thing that hurts, or the long breaks. Eliminating sweeps will eliminate long breaks. Or, if they cant happen, simply starting the TV season in the middle of October or ending it in April is the next solution.

The Red Tornado wrote:Im amazed that they havent switched to 2 seasons on network TV- winter/spring and summer/fall.

So you'd like them to come up with TWICE as many shows worth keeping on the air as they do now?

Plus summer is family travel time, vacation time, people (historically) watch less tv (though you can launch hits in the summer, survivor was a summer series)\

dsp wrote:That might be a possibility down the road. But people are so used to shows premiering in the fall, could everyone really get used an entirely new schedule in the spring?

The best bet is to do away with sweeps in general. That way, serialized shows can premiere in the fall and run with limited repeats and end in the march or april. If they start up the next September, things will be fine.

The biggest concern for people, I believe, is extended breaks. That means shows have to air their first episode of the season the same time every year (this hurt the Sopranos). They also can't do it 6+ week breaks in season. Airing 5 episodes followed by 2 repeats and another 5 episodes isn't a problem. It's the week on/week off thing that hurts, or the long breaks. Eliminating sweeps will eliminate long breaks. Or, if they cant happen, simply starting the TV season in the middle of October or ending it in April is the next solution.

The whole ratings system needs to be scrapped and redone. The technology out there isnt represented, a huge chunk of a generation's viewing habits arent recorded correctly.

jemagee wrote:

The Red Tornado wrote:Im amazed that they havent switched to 2 seasons on network TV- winter/spring and summer/fall.

So you'd like them to come up with TWICE as many shows worth keeping on the air as they do now?

Plus summer is family travel time, vacation time, people (historically) watch less tv (though you can launch hits in the summer, survivor was a summer series)\

With cheap reality TV and other alternatives it isnt hard to do as you think. You can give shows that arent rated highly but do well in DVD sales and the like a shot in the summertime.

Even reality shows get canclled due to poor ratings and how do you know wht shows will do well in DVD sales?

I mean look at what happened with Family Guy

The Red Tornado wrote:

dsp wrote:That might be a possibility down the road. But people are so used to shows premiering in the fall, could everyone really get used an entirely new schedule in the spring?

The best bet is to do away with sweeps in general. That way, serialized shows can premiere in the fall and run with limited repeats and end in the march or april. If they start up the next September, things will be fine.

The biggest concern for people, I believe, is extended breaks. That means shows have to air their first episode of the season the same time every year (this hurt the Sopranos). They also can't do it 6+ week breaks in season. Airing 5 episodes followed by 2 repeats and another 5 episodes isn't a problem. It's the week on/week off thing that hurts, or the long breaks. Eliminating sweeps will eliminate long breaks. Or, if they cant happen, simply starting the TV season in the middle of October or ending it in April is the next solution.

The whole ratings system needs to be scrapped and redone. The technology out there isnt represented, a huge chunk of a generation's viewing habits arent recorded correctly.

It ballparks it. The networks know how many people view shows of itunes and dvd. But that has nothing to do with advertisers. The ratings system to need to be improved, but it is an imperfect science, and what they have now isn't horrible. It more or less gives a representation of who is watching what.

The Red Tornado wrote:

dsp wrote:That might be a possibility down the road. But people are so used to shows premiering in the fall, could everyone really get used an entirely new schedule in the spring?

The best bet is to do away with sweeps in general. That way, serialized shows can premiere in the fall and run with limited repeats and end in the march or april. If they start up the next September, things will be fine.

The biggest concern for people, I believe, is extended breaks. That means shows have to air their first episode of the season the same time every year (this hurt the Sopranos). They also can't do it 6+ week breaks in season. Airing 5 episodes followed by 2 repeats and another 5 episodes isn't a problem. It's the week on/week off thing that hurts, or the long breaks. Eliminating sweeps will eliminate long breaks. Or, if they cant happen, simply starting the TV season in the middle of October or ending it in April is the next solution.

The whole ratings system needs to be scrapped and redone. The technology out there isnt represented, a huge chunk of a generation's viewing habits arent recorded correctly.

If you think about it it though, the technology is. Time shifted tv viewing almost certainly means that people aren't watching commercials. With that in mind, why would an advertiser want the network to count those people? Advertisers certainly don't care - they need to know who's ass is in front of the tv at the time of viewing so they'll have eyes on their product.

It'll be no-time before commercials are always on the TV screen (like a web-site) to ensure you're watching them no matter what medium (live, 10 minute delay, recorded days later, etc). Probably around the time that the majority of people are using wide aspect ratio TV's - maybe 5-10 years?

The only question I have left about TV this year is who is going to replace Bob Barker?

Todd Newton (Whammy! host)
Mark Steines (Entertainment Tonight)
George Hamilton (the really tan old guy)

DSP posted a blurb or whatever from the CBS executive that after all the email and fan backlash from the Jericho canceling they are going to try to provide some closure over the next few weeks.

The Jewish God Todd does not know what this means.

Also this has been bugging me, where the hell would New Burn get a .50 cal assault rifle and then have the ability to mount it on a fricken ford? Did they really think that was realistic?

As expected, Jordin won American Idol

I am not starting a new thread for Indy racing, and don't know that anyone cares, but Danica Patrick is in second place in the Indy 500 right now about 3/5's through the race

WilliamC wrote:I am not starting a new thread for Indy racing, and don't know that anyone cares, but Danica Patrick is in second place in the Indy 500 right now about 3/5's through the race

But Mr Ashley Judd takes home the victory.