Random baseball thoughts

by **SteveJeltzPhanClub** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:20:48

Just made a bet with my Dodger crazy co-worker about who had the better 5th starter- Phillies & Pedro vs. Dodgers & Padilla. Bet made based on who has the majority of the 5 best following pitching stats (W's, K's, ERA, WHIP, Innings pitched) over the course of September.

Easiest $10 ever, right?

by **TenuredVulture** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:24:00

SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Just made a bet with my Dodger crazy co-worker about who had the better 5th starter- Phillies & Pedro vs. Dodgers & Padilla. Bet made based on who has the majority of the 5 best following pitching stats (W's, K's, ERA, WHIP, Innings pitched) over the course of September.

Easiest $10 ever, right?

Except that it never rains in Southern California and you're using 3 counting stats.

by **Barry Jive** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:25:33

TenuredVulture wrote:
SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Just made a bet with my Dodger crazy co-worker about who had the better 5th starter- Phillies & Pedro vs. Dodgers & Padilla. Bet made based on who has the majority of the 5 best following pitching stats (W's, K's, ERA, WHIP, Innings pitched) over the course of September.

Easiest $10 ever, right?

Except that it never rains in Southern California and you're using 3 counting stats.

but it's always sunny in Philadelphia

by **SteveJeltzPhanClub** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:33:51

TenuredVulture wrote:
SteveJeltzPhanClub wrote:Just made a bet with my Dodger crazy co-worker about who had the better 5th starter- Phillies & Pedro vs. Dodgers & Padilla. Bet made based on who has the majority of the 5 best following pitching stats (W's, K's, ERA, WHIP, Innings pitched) over the course of September.

Easiest $10 ever, right?

Except that it never rains in Southern California and you're using 3 counting stats.

I'd like to think that the odds are against any additional Pedro rainouts. It's a good point, though.

by **Ace Rothstein** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 17:46:59

Hanley Ramirez and Dan Uggla had an argument in the Marlins' clubhouse about Ramirez's early departure from Tuesday's game due to a hamstring injury.
Uggla accused Ramirez of not caring about the team because he has a $70 million contract, while Ramirez feels insulted by some teammates' belief that he faked an injury to preserve his league-leading .355 batting average in the midst of an 0-for-14 slump.

by **phatj** » Wed Sep 02, 2009 18:32:01

The Marlins are the new Mets

by **Benny Lava** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 08:29:02

Ace Rothstein wrote:
Hanley Ramirez and Dan Uggla had an argument in the Marlins' clubhouse about Ramirez's early departure from Tuesday's game due to a hamstring injury.
Uggla accused Ramirez of not caring about the team because he has a $70 million contract, while Ramirez feels insulted by some teammates' belief that he faked an injury to preserve his league-leading .355 batting average in the midst of an 0-for-14 slump.

heres the full article where uggla accuses ramirez about not wanting to win, having vagina.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/sports/flor ... ?track=rss

by **bleh** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 14:41:31

Cole Hamels' ERA+ is now 101

by **philliesphhan** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 16:05:43

Smoltz wasn't quite as good today since he wasn't pitching to the lowly Padres or Nats.

by **philliesphhan** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 16:33:58

philliesphhan wrote:Magglio Ordonez's contract:

2010 option guaranteed at $18M if Ordonez has:

* 135 starts or 540 PAs in 2009, or
* 270 starts or 1,080 PAs in 2008-09

Currently at 996. I can't imagine they'd let him get to that, but that's not that many PA left for a guy who still starts fairly regularly and is hitting better in the second half.

1044
Only 36 PA needed with 29 games left

by **mcare89** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 16:36:41

philliesphhan wrote:
philliesphhan wrote:Magglio Ordonez's contract:

2010 option guaranteed at $18M if Ordonez has:

* 135 starts or 540 PAs in 2009, or
* 270 starts or 1,080 PAs in 2008-09

Currently at 996. I can't imagine they'd let him get to that, but that's not that many PA left for a guy who still starts fairly regularly and is hitting better in the second half.

1044
Only 36 PA needed with 29 games left

If he doesn't, Boras is going to stab somebody.

by **Barry Jive** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 17:03:50

They should stop him from getting that by any means necessary. SHUT HIM DOWN

by **Trent Steele** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 17:15:04

Barry Jive wrote:They should stop him from getting that by any means necessary. SHUT HIM DOWN

.320 .397 .508 .905 since July 1. They are in a tough spot. They're trying to win and he's helping.

by **TheDude24** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 22:20:07

What on earth is Victorino doing in the September photo of the official Phillies WFC 2009 calendar?

by **philliesphhan** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 22:26:13

TheDude24 wrote:What on earth is Victorino doing in the September photo of the official Phillies WFC 2009 calendar?

9th inning

by **Bakestar** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 22:28:36

Trent Steele wrote:
Barry Jive wrote:They should stop him from getting that by any means necessary. SHUT HIM DOWN

.320 .397 .508 .905 since July 1. They are in a tough spot. They're trying to win and he's helping.

The outsize rewards associated with making the postseason, and doing well once you're there, kind of make it obvious, I would hope... although it isn't my money.

by **swishnicholson** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 22:48:00

bleh wrote:Cole Hamels' ERA+ is now 101

Interesting. I'm pretty sure Pedro pushed himself up above 100 tonight. I checked back through 2000 and couldn't find one instance where the five starters who ended the year in the rotation maintained an ERA+ of 100 or better.

by **FTN** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 01:56:59

Random Baseball Thoughts Trivia; Without looking, name the two MLB pitchers with the most errors this season. Bonus trivia, which pitcher committed the most errors in 2008?

by **philliesphhan** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 03:43:29

I'll take a complete shot in the dark.

Vicente Padilla
Carlos Zambrano

And for last year, I'll just say Padilla again.

by **The Dude** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 08:30:10

Big Pelf

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