2009 Draft Thread

2009 Draft Thread

Postby FTN » Mon Aug 18, 2008 13:46:48

its never too early!

* Steven Strasberg, RHP (San Diego State) is the odds on favorite to go 1.1
* Our old friend Kyle Gibson, RHP (Missouri) is a potential Top 10 pick after not signing with the Phillies out of high school
* UNC will be very well represented in this draft, with Dustin Ackley and Alex White both looking like mid first round picks. I saw Ackley on the Cape this summer (eat it Gammons), he looked pretty smooth.
* USC Shortstop and jazz guitar legend Grant Green looks like a Top 10 pick after impressing on the Cape
* Aaron Crow is playing in Indy Ball and with a strong performance will go in the Top 10 again next year

Compensation Picks (will be updated)

* Nats get 9B for not signing Aaron Crow
* Yankees get 28B for not signing Gerrit Cole
* Pittsburgh gets 48B for not signing Tanner Sheppers
* Yankees get 75B for not signing Scott Bittle
* Houston gets a supplemental pick after the 3rd for not signing Chase Davidson

THE RACE FOR THE #1 pick is on

Washington, 44 W
Seattle, 46 W
San Diego, 48 W

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Postby Ace Rothstein » Mon Aug 18, 2008 14:16:45

will 9B basically be the 10th pick ??? is that how that works ?

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Postby thephan » Mon Aug 18, 2008 14:22:36

Ace Rothstein wrote:will 9B basically be the 10th pick ??? is that how that works ?


...unless you are looking at slot money...
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Postby FTN » Mon Aug 18, 2008 14:24:32

Ace Rothstein wrote:will 9B basically be the 10th pick ??? is that how that works ?


Yeah. Its basically #10.

But its a one off pick. They have to sign that pick or they get nothing.

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Postby BigEd76 » Mon Aug 18, 2008 19:11:58

Is the Yankees' "28B" pick going to be 29th, or does it get pushed to 30th because of the Nats' extra pick?

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Postby Squire » Mon Aug 18, 2008 19:15:40

BigEd76 wrote:Is the Yankees' "28B" pick going to be 29th, or does it get pushed to 30th because of the Nats' extra pick?


I think its 29.

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Postby FTN » Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:38:45

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BigEd76 wrote:Is the Yankees' "28B" pick going to be 29th, or does it get pushed to 30th because of the Nats' extra pick?


I think its 29.

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Callis seemed to say it would be 30.

There will be 30 first round picks, plus 2. The Nats will end up with #1 or 2 overall, in all likelihood. Then they also get #9B, which is essentially #10. So the top 10 will really be the top 11, and it trickles down from there.

Goldstein with some interesting stuff today

If anything, 2007 was the test case, and there was one clear conclusion to be drawn from the results—those that waited, got paid. Players and agents took notice, and this year more of them than ever followed suit. What MLB really did was to make it more expedient to hold out, since two idle months are much easier to cope with on the player's side than the possibility of nearly a full year away from the game.

In addition, MLB has only added to the problem by mandating additional holdouts behind the scenes. There is a truckload of evidence that several seven-figure deals for non first-round picks were agreed upon—at least the terms—well before the signing deadline, and that the powers that be coerced the teams into delaying announcements of those deals out of fear that they'd create greater inflation in the market. Unfortunately, that inflation is more organic than they'd like to believe, and holding those signings back only resulted in more players deciding to wait, and simply steered that inflation down an alternate road.

As long as there's a slotting system that is merely "suggested," the players will always have the upper-hand in terms of leverage, because teams need talent, and they need to sign their draft picks. That said, many are suggesting another move of the deadline to July 15. The purpose of this would not be to gain any additional leverage in negotiations, as that's simply not going to happen, but rather to get the players playing baseball. The value of 30-50 games in a complex or short-season league should not be discounted. It takes care of the acclimation period to the professional game, and gives teams some valuable early information on how and where to slot the talent into their system the following year. That 'head start' has meant a big difference in the development of many players, and with the current situation allowing for players to simply sit around and wait to negotiate until the last minute, why not just concede the bonuses that are going to be what they are no matter what, and move that last minute to a point where players would still be able to get six weeks' worth of games in?

Such a deadline was discussed at this week's scouting meetings in Arizona, and the response was generally favorable. It would require a modification of the current CBA, but there is reason to believe that the union might be open to such a change. The only real obstacle seems to be that some general managers fear that there could be time-management conflicts with the trading deadline. Still, the two-week window between the proposed July 15 signing deadline and the July 31 trading deadline would be no different than the time between the two current deadlines.


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Postby BigEd76 » Sun Sep 21, 2008 21:33:32

With one week left in the season:

01 = Mariners (57-98)
02 = Nationals (58-98)
03 = Padres (61-95)
04 = Pirates (65-91)
05 = Orioles (67-86)
06 = Braves (69-87)
07 = Royals (70-86)
08 = Giants (70-86)
09 = Rockies (71-85)
10 = Nationals (failed to sign Aaron Crow)
11 = Tigers (71-83)
12 = Reds (72-83)
13 = Athletics (74-81)
14 = Rangers (75-81)
15 = Diamondbacks (78-77)
16 = Indians (78-77)
17 = Cardinals (80-75)
18 = Dodgers (81-75)
19 = Marlins (81-74)
20 = Astros (82-73)
21 = Blue Jays (83-73)
22 = Twins (84-72)
23 = Yankees (84-71)
24 = Brewers (85-71)
25 = White Sox (86-69)
26 = Mets (86-69)
27 = PHILLIES (88-68)
28 = Red Sox (91-64)
29 = Rays (92-62)
30 = Yankees (failed to sign Gerrit Cole)
31 = Cubs (94-60)
32 = Angels (96-59)

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Postby FTN » Sun Sep 21, 2008 21:34:19

Mariners still havent signed Josh Fields as well

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Postby FTN » Mon Sep 22, 2008 13:42:56

Alvarez not going back into the draft

According to the Pittsburgh Post Gazette, the Pirates agreed to terms with first-round pick Pedro Alvarez on a revised four-year MLB contract worth $6.35 million guaranteed.

The deal replaces Alvarez's previous contract and likely ends a grievance filed by the player's union alleging that MLB approved the verbal agreement between the Pirates and Alvarez minutes after the midnight deadline on August 15.

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Postby lethal » Mon Sep 22, 2008 13:44:36

I'm not sure how this was allowed. Boras is the big winner in all this.

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Postby FTN » Mon Sep 22, 2008 13:47:45

the draft will certainly be addressed in the next CBA

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Postby jerseyhoya » Mon Sep 22, 2008 13:48:51

Washington should want to lose out to us so they can beat the Mariners for the worst record in the league.

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Postby lethal » Fri Sep 26, 2008 13:50:44

Stephen Strasburg to the Nationals please.

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Postby FTN » Fri Sep 26, 2008 13:59:07

lethal wrote:Stephen Strasburg to the Nationals please.


you want the Nats to end up with the best college SP in the draft?

I'd prefer they take a toolsy high school kid.

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Postby lethal » Fri Sep 26, 2008 14:01:50

FTN wrote:
lethal wrote:Stephen Strasburg to the Nationals please.


you want the Nats to end up with the best college SP in the draft?

I'd prefer they take a toolsy high school kid.

I want them to have the worst record in the league. That probably means they lost 3 this weekned and we won the division.

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Postby FTN » Fri Sep 26, 2008 14:03:25

Oh.

Well.

Ok.

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Postby BigEd76 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 12:21:54

The Nationals clinch the #1 pick with a loss or Mariners win.

03 = Padres
04 = Pirates
05 = Orioles
06 = Giants
07 = Braves

8-9 = TBD
10 = Nationals (failed to sign Aaron Crow)
11-13 = TBD
14 = Rangers
15-26 = TBD
27 = PHILLIES
28-29 = TBD
30 = Yankees (failed to sign Gerrit Cole)
31 = Cubs
32 = Angels




.....and as floppy said, the Mariners could get another pick if they fail to sign Fields....

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Postby BigEd76 » Sun Sep 28, 2008 19:26:26

01 = Nationals
02 = Mariners
03 = Padres
04 = Pirates
05 = Orioles
06 = Giants
07 = Braves
08 = Reds
09 = Tigers
10 = Nationals (compensatory)
11 = Rockies
12 = Royals
13 = Athletics
14 = Rangers
15 = Indians
16 = Diamondbacks
17 = Dodgers
18 = Marlins
19 = Cardinals
20 = Blue Jays
21 = Astros

22 = White Sox/Twins loser
23 = White Sox/Twins winner
24 = Mets
25 = Yankees
26 = Brewers
27 = PHILLIES
28 = Red Sox
29 = Rays
30 = Yankees (compensatory)
31 = Cubs
32 = Angels


(The Mariners get the 21st pick if they don't sign Fields, and everyone below slides down a spot.)

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Postby Squire » Wed Oct 29, 2008 22:37:25

32 baybee. Outstanding.

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