Phillies emerge on Ibanez

by **Grotewold** » Fri Jul 24, 2009 10:47:40

As if I needed more to love the guy, I've noticed Ibanez often (always?) comes to the plate with Pearl Jam playing.

by **Trent Steele** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 13:53:18

oh noes pat

http://www.tampabay.com/sports/baseball ... 023130.ece

by **VFB** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 13:55:11

that's some good comments too

Bert from Brooksville
Jul 30th, 2009 12:53 pm

I've also seen Burrell and Pena take called third strikes in late innings with the winning runs on base. Like they're Ted Williams? Give me a break. Looks like they would rather get a walk than win the game with a hit. They're just lousy hitters!!

by **Barry Jive** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 13:56:55

gets you kind of wistful, dunnit?

by **Trent Steele** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 13:58:53

Lets offer them Francisco for Pat back

by **Brantt** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:00:21

Trent Steele wrote:Lets offer them Francisco for Pat back

Why downgrade?

by **FTN** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:05:05

The Ibanez thing still amazes me. Every piece of statistical evidence pointed to an outcome nowhere close to what hes done. Even the head in the clouds optimists like Grote couldnt have predicted he'd be THIS good

by **CrashburnAlley** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:07:25

I don't think the criticism was that Ibanez was a terrible player; it was that he wasn't a good defender and the contract was too long for too much money. There's still 2.3 years left on the contract.

I still don't like the contract but I'm enjoying the first two-thirds of the first season so far.

by **Grotewold** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:13:11

FTN wrote:Even the head in the clouds optimists like Grote couldnt have predicted he'd be THIS good

The criticism of the Ibanez and Burrell moves bordered on histrionics, which is what I reacted to.

If you go back and read what I wrote, I didn't make "head in the clouds" or even bold statements.

by **Werthless** » Thu Jul 30, 2009 14:14:35

I can't believe you're arguing over how right you were. Just let them fawn.

by **phdave** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 20:18:17

Shore wrote:I'm sure Ruben Amaro, Stanford grad and executive with the World Champion Philadelphia Phillies, has a master plan, and that it's sure to succeed.

After all, he studied under Pat Gillick, who guided this squad to a World Series victory.

Let's not bicker over potential transactions; let's wait until the other shoe drops before passing judgment.

MLB teams have access to all sorts of information that we, the public, can't get, and I'm sure a young, progressive executive like Amaro uses it to its fullest value.

Besides, he understands the new economy of baseball, and is simply executing in that world, long before his bumbling comrades can even see it.

by **etched Chaos** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 20:20:40

Stop bumping ancient threads, fuck!

by **smitty** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 20:21:58

Why didn't the Phillies fire Gillick and hire Calvin Ball before it was too late? We would have won at least 10 World Series by now. I wouldn't have been satisfied with that mind you. But it's a lot batter than the crap we've had to put up with for the last six or seven years.

by **phdave** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 20:36:30

etched Chaos wrote:Stop bumping ancient threads, fuck!

I think I'm done. For now.

by **LongDrive** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 20:56:08

Rauuuuuul has 20 Hrs already

by **Shore** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 21:09:48

phdave wrote:
Shore wrote:I'm sure Ruben Amaro, Stanford grad and executive with the World Champion Philadelphia Phillies, has a master plan, and that it's sure to succeed.

After all, he studied under Pat Gillick, who guided this squad to a World Series victory.

Let's not bicker over potential transactions; let's wait until the other shoe drops before passing judgment.

MLB teams have access to all sorts of information that we, the public, can't get, and I'm sure a young, progressive executive like Amaro uses it to its fullest value.

Besides, he understands the new economy of baseball, and is simply executing in that world, long before his bumbling comrades can even see it.

Love it. Thanks.

by **Shore** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 21:10:18

smitty wrote:Why didn't the Phillies fire Gillick and hire Calvin Ball before it was too late? We would have won at least 10 World Series by now. I wouldn't have been satisfied with that mind you. But it's a lot batter than the crap we've had to put up with for the last six or seven years.

Said no one. Ever.

by **phatj** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 21:11:42

I'm reminded suddenly that the phrasing "emerge on" was kind of unsettling.

by **smitty** » Wed Jul 03, 2013 21:12:31

Shore wrote:
smitty wrote:Why didn't the Phillies fire Gillick and hire Calvin Ball before it was too late? We would have won at least 10 World Series by now. I wouldn't have been satisfied with that mind you. But it's a lot batter than the crap we've had to put up with for the last six or seven years.

Said no one. Ever.

Lol. I just did. Calvin gets his mother to shovel snow for him. He'd be an awesome GM.

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