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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Fri Nov 14, 2008 19:00:08

dajafi wrote:smitty, good stuff. (I can generally take long posts from those who don't habitually make them.) I can buy that Moyer is "unique." But I think Shore's question, and certainly mine, is why you'd give him a two year deal when in all likelihood you don't have to do so.

I love the guy. I want him back. I want him to be a Phillies, in uniform or street clothes, for life, if possible. But as great as he is, as much as we all like him, doesn't the calendar eventually win?


I guess it depends on how it's structured. My sense is Moyer wants at least 2 years for the security of having a place to call home for those years, to not have to go through the FA hoops next off season. Also, he has said he wants to pitch through 2010 so he can have that 4 decade thing. Heck, I wouldn't mind giving Moyer 2 or 3 years if the last year(s) is/are incentive laden (gets X amount for each Y innings pitched, or whatever is allowed by the rules). Some creative crafting so it won't be a financial restraint.

He's an oddity, for some reason that defies logic and natural law, he been getting better the older he gets. Who knows, he may retire at age 72, figuring a perfect game that caps an undefeated season is the perfect note to go out on...
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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Nov 14, 2008 19:16:17

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 14, 2008 19:26:03

Do some free agents usually get signed on the first day? My memory is useless here.

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Postby philliesphhan » Fri Nov 14, 2008 20:23:08

in the dumpster diving department, Russell Branyon is a free agent
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Postby FTN » Fri Nov 14, 2008 20:25:13

I think I found the answer to our need for a RH bat, cheap.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/k/kaplega01.shtml

Dude took a job managing in 2007, came out of retirement, and put up a 1.000 OPS v LHP in 2008. .828 v LHP for his career.

Will come cheap. 1 year, 2-3M.

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Postby CFP » Fri Nov 14, 2008 21:24:30

The Twins want Casey Blake per MLB.com

New thread time?

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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Fri Nov 14, 2008 21:26:55

Eli:
According to the NY Daily News, the Yankees and Mets have made an offer to free agent pitcher CC Sabathia. The Yankees have reportedly made an offer for six years worth somewhere between 145 and 155 million dollars. At this point, the Mets' offer is unknown, but it is believed to be close to Johan Santana's offer, which is a lot for the Mets to take on in the midst of an economic crisis. Obviously, his agent will try to squeeze as much money as he can out of interested teams before he has Sabathia sign, but it will be interesting to see how long this plays out.


Santana + Sabathia and they will still choke
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Postby kenrosenthal » Fri Nov 14, 2008 21:26:56

philliesphhan wrote:in the dumpster diving department, Russell Branyon is a free agent


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Postby mcare89 » Fri Nov 14, 2008 21:43:07

Warszawa wrote:Eli:
According to the NY Daily News, the Yankees and Mets have made an offer to free agent pitcher CC Sabathia. The Yankees have reportedly made an offer for six years worth somewhere between 145 and 155 million dollars. At this point, the Mets' offer is unknown, but it is believed to be close to Johan Santana's offer, which is a lot for the Mets to take on in the midst of an economic crisis. Obviously, his agent will try to squeeze as much money as he can out of interested teams before he has Sabathia sign, but it will be interesting to see how long this plays out.


Santana + Sabathia and they will still choke


Maybe they'll have CC close?

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