2008 WORLD SERIES discussion- WE'RE IN! WE'RE IN!

Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Oct 17, 2008 19:48:19

We're in the World Fucking Series. Everyday that passes I get ever more pumped.

We're gonna win this fucking thing. askfal;sfjwpo wv
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Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Oct 17, 2008 21:25:24

I think we should consider the onslaught of RSox fans if we have to face them. If Boston wins, tickets will get even more expensive and you can count on lots of RSox fans sitting at CBP and screaming anytime Boston does something good. Personally, I want as many Phils fans in those seats as possible and that means rooting for the Rays.

Plus, their young players will be fun to watch for a few games until we all hate them.
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Postby phdave » Fri Oct 17, 2008 23:59:56

Monkeyboy wrote:I think we should consider the onslaught of RSox fans if we have to face them. If Boston wins, tickets will get even more expensive and you can count on lots of RSox fans sitting at CBP and screaming anytime Boston does something good. Personally, I want as many Phils fans in those seats as possible and that means rooting for the Rays.

Plus, their young players will be fun to watch for a few games until we all hate them.


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Postby MattS » Sat Oct 18, 2008 02:41:49

So, it looks like if we play the Rays, Kazmir would pitch Game 1. Shields is pitching tomorrow, so he wouldn't be ready until game 2. Kazmir has a career OOPS against LHB of .574, compared to his .760 OOPS agains RHB. That's very significant. Who is our DH? Game 1 is on the road. Our bench consists of Coste, Bruntlett, Taguchi, Dobbs, Stairs, and Jenkins. While Matt Stairs only has a moderate drop in OPS against LHP, he still hits .748 against them instead of .861 against RHP. I think we'd need to use Coste as the DH, right? I mean, I know maybe we'd have someone else play DH and have Coste in the field (1B?), but the idea is that we'd play an additional RHB in the lineup. Would Charlie be against doing that? I mean, you could switch him to catcher if there was an injury to Ruiz, and I think that means you'd have to revert to your pitcher batting if your DH takes the field? It's probably not the worst situation to need to use a PH. I wish we had picked up a RHB with some pop at the deadline to be on the bench. We do hit LHP better than RHP, but it would be nice if our PH did late in games and our RHB DH could in the World Series (<--So awesome to be talking like this!)

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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sat Oct 18, 2008 03:45:52

TenuredVulture wrote:I don't know which team would be easier to beat, and from reading the comments from you intelligent people, it's clear no one else does either.

So, I propose we think about this in terms of which team would be more fun to beat.

And in my mind, the answer is clear--it would be way more fun to beat the Red Sox. The Fox guys will be fellating Tito and the rest of 'em, there will be constant talk about the amazing come back, blah, blah blah. Meanwhile, Cole, Jimmy, Chase, and the rest of the boys will be sweeping their sorry asses, and there will be much weeping among the national media.

I really like an "us against the world" story line. We're despised, hated, unlovable Santa Claus booers who never win anything. And we're taking this $#@! series. Serious.

On the other hand... if the Rays win on Saturday, the Phils would probably head down to Florida on Sunday or Monday. If it were me, I'd use Brighthouse for practice and work outs (familiar ground) and set the team up in Clearwater (familiar ground).
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Postby lethal » Sat Oct 18, 2008 06:42:30

MattS wrote:So, it looks like if we play the Rays, Kazmir would pitch Game 1. Shields is pitching tomorrow, so he wouldn't be ready until game 2. Kazmir has a career OOPS against LHB of .574, compared to his .760 OOPS agains RHB. That's very significant. Who is our DH? Game 1 is on the road. Our bench consists of Coste, Bruntlett, Taguchi, Dobbs, Stairs, and Jenkins. While Matt Stairs only has a moderate drop in OPS against LHP, he still hits .748 against them instead of .861 against RHP. I think we'd need to use Coste as the DH, right? I mean, I know maybe we'd have someone else play DH and have Coste in the field (1B?), but the idea is that we'd play an additional RHB in the lineup. Would Charlie be against doing that? I mean, you could switch him to catcher if there was an injury to Ruiz, and I think that means you'd have to revert to your pitcher batting if your DH takes the field? It's probably not the worst situation to need to use a PH. I wish we had picked up a RHB with some pop at the deadline to be on the bench. We do hit LHP better than RHP, but it would be nice if our PH did late in games and our RHB DH could in the World Series (<--So awesome to be talking like this!)


There was the rumor that Marson would be added to the roster in place of Taguchi so that Coste could DH.

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Postby LongDrive » Sat Oct 18, 2008 07:30:10

anyone but Taguchi. I'd like Dobbs or Coste to DH

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Postby JFLNYC » Sat Oct 18, 2008 09:48:45

Let Myers DH.
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Postby philliesphhan » Sat Oct 18, 2008 14:45:55

lethal wrote:
MattS wrote:So, it looks like if we play the Rays, Kazmir would pitch Game 1. Shields is pitching tomorrow, so he wouldn't be ready until game 2. Kazmir has a career OOPS against LHB of .574, compared to his .760 OOPS agains RHB. That's very significant. Who is our DH? Game 1 is on the road. Our bench consists of Coste, Bruntlett, Taguchi, Dobbs, Stairs, and Jenkins. While Matt Stairs only has a moderate drop in OPS against LHP, he still hits .748 against them instead of .861 against RHP. I think we'd need to use Coste as the DH, right? I mean, I know maybe we'd have someone else play DH and have Coste in the field (1B?), but the idea is that we'd play an additional RHB in the lineup. Would Charlie be against doing that? I mean, you could switch him to catcher if there was an injury to Ruiz, and I think that means you'd have to revert to your pitcher batting if your DH takes the field? It's probably not the worst situation to need to use a PH. I wish we had picked up a RHB with some pop at the deadline to be on the bench. We do hit LHP better than RHP, but it would be nice if our PH did late in games and our RHB DH could in the World Series (<--So awesome to be talking like this!)


There was the rumor that Marson would be added to the roster in place of Taguchi so that Coste could DH.


Speaking of which, I wanted to know where ekrav heard that (I think he's the one who said it) because Zolecki's article today says that the roster will be the same, just that it's not official yet.
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Postby philliesphhan » Sat Oct 18, 2008 15:54:58

ek wrote:I heard it on WIP. Gargano was in LA and said he was talking with a lot of the coaches and that was what they were thinking. I guess they changed their minds


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Postby dajafi » Sat Oct 18, 2008 16:59:44

So your right-handed DH options against Kazmir, unless he's willing to put both catchers in, would be Taguchi or Bruntlett. (Or Myers.) Swell.

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Postby bleh » Sat Oct 18, 2008 17:43:56

here's a brilliant idea from mlb.com
Pat Burrell isn't the most adept fielder -- manager Charlie Manuel routinely removes Burrell in the late innings for a defensive replacement -- so the Phils might consider using him as the DH. If that's the case, they could shift Jayson Werth to left field and start Jenkins in right.

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Postby Barry Jive » Sat Oct 18, 2008 18:05:12

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Postby Phan In Phlorida » Sun Oct 19, 2008 01:39:23

bleh wrote:here's a brilliant idea from mlb.com
Pat Burrell isn't the most adept fielder -- manager Charlie Manuel routinely removes Burrell in the late innings for a defensive replacement -- so the Phils might consider using him as the DH. If that's the case, they could shift Jayson Werth to left field and start Jenkins in right.

Yeah. Burrell has all of 2 errors, has a plus arm, and catches whatever a LFer should catch. He's downright brutal out there.
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Postby bleh » Sun Oct 19, 2008 09:27:28

I just realized that one of our edges is going to be taken away by not having home field advantage. If we play the first 2 games on the road that means Hamels & Myers won't bat. And Blanton, who might be the worst batter on earth will have to bat in game 4. We'll only have a small edge in game 5 when Hamels bats.

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Postby VoxOrion » Sun Oct 19, 2008 09:55:41

If we lose, I don't want to hear an excuse that it was because our pitching staff didn't get enough at bats :)
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Postby milton bernard thompson » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:02:38

against lefties they're probably gonna DH burl and put bruntlett in left. against righties they'll DH dobbs or put him in left or at first and DH burl or howard.
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Postby Bucky » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:05:19

milton bernard thompson wrote:against lefties they're probably gonna DH burl and put bruntlett in left. .


would be better to leave pat in left and dh myers

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Postby milton bernard thompson » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:10:50

what they should obviously do is swap marson for taguchi and DH coste, or even DH stairs before they let brunt bat. but they'll do something as stupid as possible.
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Postby JFLNYC » Sun Oct 19, 2008 11:28:59

Don't want to alarm anyone, but current members of the Rays have a lifetime .366/.391/.537 (.928 OPS) line vs. Jamie Moyer in 82 AB. :shock:

Should be an interesting Game 3 start!
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