2008 WORLD SERIES discussion- WE'RE IN! WE'RE IN!

Postby JFLNYC » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:22:07

So that's the short story on Phillies ace Cole Hamels--pretty good fastball, killer change-up, mediocre curveball, somewhat prone to the home run, and trying out a new two-seamer.


Sounds pretty ordinary to me! :lol:
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Postby karn » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:24:24

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZZngTkp54I

Everybody's high on consolation...everybody's trying to tell me what is right for me...need a drink and a quick decision...yeah it's up to me...what will be...

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Postby laf837 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:31:22

I think tonight is a night to be positive. Banish all negative thoughts. The Phils are deserving of your trust.
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Postby karn » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:33:09

lol

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Postby laf837 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:33:46

ek wrote:I was going to post something I heard about Hamels but I read the last post and I won't

:lol:
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Postby karn » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:33:53

Emozart27 in conniption shocker

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Postby Bakestar » Mon Oct 27, 2008 16:45:16

ek wrote:I was going to post something I heard about Hamels but I read the last post and I won't


:shock: :shock: :|
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Postby BuddyGroom » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:15:17

karn wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZZngTkp54I

Everybody's high on consolation...everybody's trying to tell me what is right for me...need a drink and a quick decision...yeah it's up to me...what will be...


Or:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ooPfAAr9o

I don't know if anyone remembers, but way back before the NLDS I asked why we were getting some boy's choir to sing the Anthem instead of Patti Labelle or Darryl Hall. Not sure why I totally forgot about Will Smith (although for all I know, he may not be able to sing.)
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Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:23:15

JFLNYC wrote:
So that's the short story on Phillies ace Cole Hamels--pretty good fastball, killer change-up, mediocre curveball, somewhat prone to the home run, and trying out a new two-seamer.


Sounds pretty ordinary to me! :lol:


Except that he doesn't seem to be able to throw it for strikes quite as consistently, Hamels' curve ball to me looks similar to the one that Wolf throws. Is it just the strike percentage (i.e., command) that makes it "mediocre," or is there something I am missing?
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Postby ReadingPhilly » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:26:49

ek wrote:I was going to post something I heard about Hamels but I read the last post and I won't


i heard the same thing. no worries ek.

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Postby FTN » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:35:20

someone pm me with what the hell youre hearing

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Postby CFP » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:41:16

Maddon panicked:

1) Iwamura, 2B 1) Rollins, SS
2) Crawford, LF 2) Werth, RF
3) Upton, CF 3) Utley, 2B
4) Pena, 1B 4) Howard, 1B
5) Longoria, 3B 5) Burrell, LF
6) Navarro, C 6) Victorino, CF
7) Baldelli, RF 7) Feliz, 3B
8) Bartlett, SS 8) Ruiz, C
9) Kazmir, P 9) Hamels, P

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Postby JFLNYC » Mon Oct 27, 2008 17:50:10

Maddon at pre-game presser:

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Postby karn » Mon Oct 27, 2008 18:00:05

Blinky sonofabitch, probably voting Republican on Tuesday

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Postby TenuredVulture » Mon Oct 27, 2008 18:02:07

Heading home. Gonna park myself in front of the tv.
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Postby iamgeorge » Mon Oct 27, 2008 18:20:01

Heading out myself. Ventnor Sports Cafe in Adams Morgan (NW DC).

This is gonna be interesting.

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Postby LongDrive » Mon Oct 27, 2008 18:42:27

I want me a World Serious Championship TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Postby mikefast » Tue Oct 28, 2008 16:33:22

mozartpc27 wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:
So that's the short story on Phillies ace Cole Hamels--pretty good fastball, killer change-up, mediocre curveball, somewhat prone to the home run, and trying out a new two-seamer.


Sounds pretty ordinary to me! :lol:


Except that he doesn't seem to be able to throw it for strikes quite as consistently, Hamels' curve ball to me looks similar to the one that Wolf throws. Is it just the strike percentage (i.e., command) that makes it "mediocre," or is there something I am missing?


He is well below average in throwing the curve for strikes and somewhat below average in getting swings and misses with the pitch. He counterbalances that somewhat by getting slightly better than average results on balls in play with the curve, but not enough to make it a good pitch for him.

That's why I said it was "mediocre."
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Postby EndlessSummer » Tue Oct 28, 2008 16:39:28

So we've had Rob Neyer and a guy from The Hardball Times stop by in the last few hours. This is getting weird. And thanks for the explanation, Mike.

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Postby Woody » Tue Oct 28, 2008 16:55:56

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