Phillies vs Dodgers: NLCS Discussion

Postby The Dude » Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:31:34

I guess I just don't trust odds in a 3 game sample. I much prefer going with the best shot, especially considering Moyer's recent performance, and getting Hamels a better shot at rest
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Postby JFLNYC » Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:43:19

This is like the suggestion someone had for the last home stand to change the rotation to get each pitcher extra rest, but at the price of starting Happ in the middle of the home stand. If things are working you don't throw players (esp. pitchers) out of their normal routine. Plus, as others have pointed out, the best way for the team to get some extra rest is to finish things off as quickly as possible. And, after last night, do you really want to give the Dodgers life?
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Postby philliesphhan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:48:28

The Dude wrote:I guess I just don't trust odds in a 3 game sample. I much prefer going with the best shot, especially considering Moyer's recent performance, and getting Hamels a better shot at rest


Yeah, I don't really get it either. He gets five days of rest if he starts the next game, then who knows how much after that if we win.
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Postby phdave » Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:51:15

Ethier's blog

Tomorrow we've got a day off. I'll have to try to find a way to relax and find something to take my mind off. But right now it's sinking in that if we play this way again, it will be a whole lot worse than this. We'll be packing up and going home and we'll know we gave a series away to a team that is not better than ours. Nobody in here wants that.


From the comments:

You're absolutely right, they're are NOT better than us. It isn't over, we can still win this. If the umpires can call a fair game, we'll be able to win the NLC. GO BLUE!
...
buddy, pal, you kicked *** tonight. That diving catch in the 6th was unbelievable. They even have a whole article on that on the website. This series is far from over. Don't believe me? Ask Tommy Lasorda. He'll tell you nothing is over until it's over. This is Hollywood, where the good guys always win in dramatic fashion, and the Dodgers are the good guys. (Will anyone really watch a Phillies/Rays World Series???) I believe in you, LA believes in you, the world believes in you, SO GO OUT THERE AND SHOW WHY YOU GUYS ARE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


p.s. and if nothing else, take solace in the fact that i'm still picking you first in 2009 fantasy baseball.

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Don't worry,

Keep disrespecting your opponent that way and you'll have plenty of time in the offseason, starting Wednesday night, to think about how your lost to an "inferior team".
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I can't believe how much of a bandbox Dodger Stadium has become. The Stairs HR would have been a popup anywhere else. ;)
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I hate to break it to everyone, but the reason LA is down 3 - 1 is because they AREN'T the better team. You can constantly argue calls, you can say you gave away games, that you defeated yourselves, etc...

The fact of the matter is, it's baseball, it's 9 innings. In October baseball, anything can change. Right now, the Phillies are hot, and they are playing the game when it counts.

If you manage to win game 5 against Cole, get ready for Philly... You thought our crowd was loud in the first 2 games, you haven't heard anything yet.

Phillies realized last night that they have what it takes to play with anyone in the playoffs right now, you're not striking any fear into them now...

...
Andre- yeah it was a tough loss last night but I want you to know that even though you guys lost, I know that you still brought comfort to many people in the Valley last night. I live in Porter Ranch where the Sesnon/Porter Ranch fire is and as my family and I sat waiting to see where the fire was going to go and if we would need to evacuate, it was comforting to be able to somewhat take our minds off of things and have the normalcy of watching a Dodgers game. So just know that even though it was a tough loss, there are a lot of people who are proud of you guys and are happy that you guys are still playing cause it's a little bit of normalcy in an otherwise bad situation. And afterall this thing ain't over until a team wins 4 and I have faith that you guys can do it.
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I just want to let you know that your catch was the talk of the morning here in my classroom. They didn't care that you lost, they didn't care that there's is another game to be played tomorrow. All they cared about was that it was a great game and you were part of it. So, take heart in knowing that there is a classroom full of first graders who think you, along with your teammates, are remarkable.
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Oh yeah, let Furcal know that he was out at home.
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Postby The Dude » Tue Oct 14, 2008 15:56:30

I think phatj had the PS message there
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Postby Grotewold » Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:01:16

some commenter wrote: Also when you are up to bat, pretend your grandfather is pitching you


Hey now

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Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:45:57

the phils should wear shirts that say "i'm an ethieraholic on an inferior team" for batting practice tomorrow

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Postby Grotewold » Tue Oct 14, 2008 16:46:47

ReadingPhilly wrote:the phils should wear shirts that say "i'm an ethieraholic on an inferior team" for batting practice tomorrow


I don't have a problem with him saying that, as I would hope the Redskins and Bears didn't when McNabb said similar things last week.

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Postby Bucky » Tue Oct 14, 2008 17:17:04

Hmmmm, looks like I may be wrong in my observation/discussion from the GT. Even Dodger fans say Furcal was out at home....

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Postby Mountainphan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 17:30:15

phdave wrote:Ethier's blog

Tomorrow we've got a day off. I'll have to try to find a way to relax and find something to take my mind off. But right now it's sinking in that if we play this way again, it will be a whole lot worse than this. We'll be packing up and going home and we'll know we gave a series away to a team that is not better than ours. Nobody in here wants that.


From the comments:

You're absolutely right, they're are NOT better than us. It isn't over, we can still win this. If the umpires can call a fair game, we'll be able to win the NLC. GO BLUE!
...
buddy, pal, you kicked *** tonight. That diving catch in the 6th was unbelievable. They even have a whole article on that on the website. This series is far from over. Don't believe me? Ask Tommy Lasorda. He'll tell you nothing is over until it's over. This is Hollywood, where the good guys always win in dramatic fashion, and the Dodgers are the good guys. (Will anyone really watch a Phillies/Rays World Series???) I believe in you, LA believes in you, the world believes in you, SO GO OUT THERE AND SHOW WHY YOU GUYS ARE CHAMPIONS!!!!!!!!! WOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!


p.s. and if nothing else, take solace in the fact that i'm still picking you first in 2009 fantasy baseball.

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Don't worry,

Keep disrespecting your opponent that way and you'll have plenty of time in the offseason, starting Wednesday night, to think about how your lost to an "inferior team".
...
I can't believe how much of a bandbox Dodger Stadium has become. The Stairs HR would have been a popup anywhere else. ;)
...
I hate to break it to everyone, but the reason LA is down 3 - 1 is because they AREN'T the better team. You can constantly argue calls, you can say you gave away games, that you defeated yourselves, etc...

The fact of the matter is, it's baseball, it's 9 innings. In October baseball, anything can change. Right now, the Phillies are hot, and they are playing the game when it counts.

If you manage to win game 5 against Cole, get ready for Philly... You thought our crowd was loud in the first 2 games, you haven't heard anything yet.

Phillies realized last night that they have what it takes to play with anyone in the playoffs right now, you're not striking any fear into them now...

...
Andre- yeah it was a tough loss last night but I want you to know that even though you guys lost, I know that you still brought comfort to many people in the Valley last night. I live in Porter Ranch where the Sesnon/Porter Ranch fire is and as my family and I sat waiting to see where the fire was going to go and if we would need to evacuate, it was comforting to be able to somewhat take our minds off of things and have the normalcy of watching a Dodgers game. So just know that even though it was a tough loss, there are a lot of people who are proud of you guys and are happy that you guys are still playing cause it's a little bit of normalcy in an otherwise bad situation. And afterall this thing ain't over until a team wins 4 and I have faith that you guys can do it.
...
I just want to let you know that your catch was the talk of the morning here in my classroom. They didn't care that you lost, they didn't care that there's is another game to be played tomorrow. All they cared about was that it was a great game and you were part of it. So, take heart in knowing that there is a classroom full of first graders who think you, along with your teammates, are remarkable.
Have a Ethieriffic Day Andre!!
Debbie (Mrs. Nelson) ~
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...
Oh yeah, let Furcal know that he was out at home.
...
PS –To relax, instead of eating out...cook something or try inventing a recipe for future cooking. This should get to stop thinking of yesterday’s game. Also when you are up to bat, pretend your grandfather is pitching you...relax.....and the BAM...get the ball out of the park! Also God is with you all the time!
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Postby ReadingPhilly » Tue Oct 14, 2008 17:45:09

lauber

So, speaking purely hypothetically, what would have happened if Brad Lidge had thrown so many pitches in the eighth inning or to open the ninth last night that he was unable to finish the game?

Brett Myers would've pitched.

In a meeting today with the beat writers who cover the Phillies, Charlie Manuel said he and pitching coach Rich Dubee had sent Myers to the bullpen in the ninth inning just in case Lidge ran into trouble.

Interesting, isn't it?

Phillies are taking batting practice on the field right now. We'll have more in a bit.

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Postby Polar Bear Phan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 17:49:31

Dodger fans have given up or at least aren't willing to spend money to see Game 5.

For comparison, I purchased my Game 3 ticket off Ticketmaster (i.e. from the Dodgers box office) for about $62 including fees (Reserve level). I think face value was $51 sans fees. I could probably get an equivalent ticket for about $35-$40 (including fees) without a coupon code right now.

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Postby 1 » Tue Oct 14, 2008 17:59:46

October baseball- it's ethierrific!!
Fine. You wanna act like you're two? I'll act like I'm one.

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Postby CFP » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:01:40

6ABC had a clip at 5:45... Burrell called everyone over for a "pow-wow" in the outfield as Jamie Apody called it. He did all the talking. No word on what was said.

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Postby philliesphhan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:03:22

I'm still trying to figure out how a team in the 4th largest market being in the World Series would be a "disaster" cause that sure is what the talking heads at ESPN think
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Postby Jim Beam » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:07:24

philliesphhan wrote:I'm still trying to figure out how a team in the 4th largest market being in the World Series would be a "disaster" cause that sure is what the talking heads at ESPN think


Kornheiser actually raised the same question tonight on PTI...
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Postby philliesphhan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:08:40

ek wrote:that's tv ratings. they think the national appeal would be minimal


I think they're overrating the interest of Manny/Torre much like they overrate Favre's appeal
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Postby FTN » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:08:50

probably has something to do with Eagles chants at baseball games.


MLB will strip the title from us if we win anyway because of our home park. its a performance enhancing drug
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Postby philliesphhan » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:10:36

edit: nevermind, read that wrong
"My hip is fucked up. I'm going to Africa for two weeks."

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Postby bleh » Tue Oct 14, 2008 18:19:21

I do think the ratings will be pretty bad if it's TB v Philly. Fox's shoddy production deserves to get low ratings anyway though.

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