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Postby FTN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:25:08

Stop criticizing the team. And management. And the players.

This is the most well run organization in baseball, and if you can't see that, there is something wrong with you.

This team should not be a source of frustration. They are the most consistent team in baseball, the offense consistently produces, and when it does, the pitching is consistent as well.

This site should not be an outlet for frustration for you, as a fan. This should be a place where you always bring a smile, and you always share your sunny optimism with other fans. We're in first place. There are no sources of frustration on this team; not in the lineup, not in the rotation or in the bullpen.

Stop being so critical. Do not be negative. Be positive. Why does every thread have to be negative? If you don't have something overly positive or optimistic to say, then don't say anything at all.

Thank you in advance.
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Re: Ugh, I've had enough

Postby Bob Loblaw » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:30:00

turn the sarcasm off now.

FTN wrote:Stop criticizing the team. And management. And the players.

This is the most well run organization in baseball, and if you can't see that, there is something wrong with you.

This team should not be a source of frustration. They are the most consistent team in baseball, the offense consistently produces, and when it does, the pitching is consistent as well.

This site should not be an outlet for frustration for you, as a fan. This should be a place where you always bring a smile, and you always share your sunny optimism with other fans. We're in first place. There are no sources of frustration on this team; not in the lineup, not in the rotation or in the bullpen.

Stop being so critical. Do not be negative. Be positive. Why does every thread have to be negative? If you don't have something overly positive or optimistic to say, then don't say anything at all.

Thank you in advance.

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Postby CFP » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:30:42

I was looking for a thread to post this in yesterday. Not like this should come as a shock, but I didn't really see it talked about. It's sickening to me.

"If he is going to help us later on this year, he's going to have to pitch much better than he's pitched so far," said Ruben Amaro Jr., the Phillies assistant general manager. "There are some things mechanically that he's trying to work through. Obviously, he's struggling to get there, because he hasn't pitched well."

Eaton signed a three-year, $24.5 million contract, so he is getting paid regardless of how he pitches. Amaro said he did not think Eaton was simply collecting a paycheck.

Amaro was asked if he thought Eaton's heart was in it. "I certainly hope so," he said. "He was in agreement with us that this was the best thing for him."

There is no question that the signing has been a failure. Eaton was 10-10 with a 6.29 ERA last season, pitching so poorly that manager Charlie Manuel left him off the postseason roster. He was 4-8 with a 5.80 ERA this season before the Phillies optioned him to the minor leagues.

Eaton is expected to rejoin the team after the minor-league season ends and big-league rosters expand Sept. 1.

"We're not happy with how it's worked out so far," Amaro said. "We still have to keep our eyes and ears open. We have to keep hope alive because we've invested a lot of money into the guy."


The exact problem with this organization lies with that quote right there. What happened when the Red Sox couldn't take Manny anymore? They cut their losses and traded him. What do we do with Adam Eaton? Well, we send him down to the Minors and "keep hope alive because we have money invested in him." Yep. Your Phightin' Phils.

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Postby Woody » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:31:07

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Re: Ugh, I've had enough

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:33:02

FTN wrote:Stop criticizing the team. And management. And the players.

This is the most well run organization in baseball, and if you can't see that, there is something wrong with you.

This team should not be a source of frustration. They are the most consistent team in baseball, the offense consistently produces, and when it does, the pitching is consistent as well.

This site should not be an outlet for frustration for you, as a fan. This should be a place where you always bring a smile, and you always share your sunny optimism with other fans. We're in first place. There are no sources of frustration on this team; not in the lineup, not in the rotation or in the bullpen.

Stop being so critical. Do not be negative. Be positive. Why does every thread have to be negative? If you don't have something overly positive or optimistic to say, then don't say anything at all.

Thank you in advance.

You really don't think there's a middle ground, do you?

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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:35:07

CFP wrote:I was looking for a thread to post this in yesterday. Not like this should come as a shock, but I didn't really see it talked about. It's sickening to me.

"If he is going to help us later on this year, he's going to have to pitch much better than he's pitched so far," said Ruben Amaro Jr., the Phillies assistant general manager. "There are some things mechanically that he's trying to work through. Obviously, he's struggling to get there, because he hasn't pitched well."

Eaton signed a three-year, $24.5 million contract, so he is getting paid regardless of how he pitches. Amaro said he did not think Eaton was simply collecting a paycheck.

Amaro was asked if he thought Eaton's heart was in it. "I certainly hope so," he said. "He was in agreement with us that this was the best thing for him."

There is no question that the signing has been a failure. Eaton was 10-10 with a 6.29 ERA last season, pitching so poorly that manager Charlie Manuel left him off the postseason roster. He was 4-8 with a 5.80 ERA this season before the Phillies optioned him to the minor leagues.

Eaton is expected to rejoin the team after the minor-league season ends and big-league rosters expand Sept. 1.

"We're not happy with how it's worked out so far," Amaro said. "We still have to keep our eyes and ears open. We have to keep hope alive because we've invested a lot of money into the guy."


The exact problem with this organization lies with that quote right there. What happened when the Red Sox couldn't take Manny anymore? They cut their losses and traded him. What do we do with Adam Eaton? Well, we send him down to the Minors and "keep hope alive because we have money invested in him." Yep. Your Phightin' Phils.

You're nuts. If they cut him, they have to pay him. It's retarded to not hope that Eaton gets it together and pitches better.

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Postby FTN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:35:50

There should be no middle ground. There should only be one ground; positive ground. I know you're already there Housh. I'm trying to help get everyone else there.

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Postby Woody » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:38:47

Houshphandzadeh wrote:
CFP wrote:I was looking for a thread to post this in yesterday. Not like this should come as a shock, but I didn't really see it talked about. It's sickening to me.

"If he is going to help us later on this year, he's going to have to pitch much better than he's pitched so far," said Ruben Amaro Jr., the Phillies assistant general manager. "There are some things mechanically that he's trying to work through. Obviously, he's struggling to get there, because he hasn't pitched well."

Eaton signed a three-year, $24.5 million contract, so he is getting paid regardless of how he pitches. Amaro said he did not think Eaton was simply collecting a paycheck.

Amaro was asked if he thought Eaton's heart was in it. "I certainly hope so," he said. "He was in agreement with us that this was the best thing for him."

There is no question that the signing has been a failure. Eaton was 10-10 with a 6.29 ERA last season, pitching so poorly that manager Charlie Manuel left him off the postseason roster. He was 4-8 with a 5.80 ERA this season before the Phillies optioned him to the minor leagues.

Eaton is expected to rejoin the team after the minor-league season ends and big-league rosters expand Sept. 1.

"We're not happy with how it's worked out so far," Amaro said. "We still have to keep our eyes and ears open. We have to keep hope alive because we've invested a lot of money into the guy."


The exact problem with this organization lies with that quote right there. What happened when the Red Sox couldn't take Manny anymore? They cut their losses and traded him. What do we do with Adam Eaton? Well, we send him down to the Minors and "keep hope alive because we have money invested in him." Yep. Your Phightin' Phils.

You're nuts. If they cut him, they have to pay him. It's retarded to not hope that Eaton gets it together and pitches better.


They could try and trade him for anyone with a heartbeat and pay like 90% of his salary.
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Postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:39:47

Why would a team give us a player for free?

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:40:28

I have no problem criticizing management or moves the team makes. I've certainly done my share.

What I take objection to is the way in which people over-react to going down 0-1 in the third inning, or proclaiming the suckitude of Jimmy Rollins based on a ground out with RISP. Is it all that important to remind everyone in game threads that Ruiz sucks, that Jimmy sometimes swings when maybe he shouldn't, or that Howard isn't doing as well as he did last year?

The powers that be have pretty clearly built a second rank team, a team that's in contention thanks to a weak division. The plan is pretty obvious--put together a pretty good, not great team on a budget, and hope for the best. It's a dumb plan, and even then, it isn't really executed all that well.
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Postby Bucky » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:45:49

FTN wrote:There should be no middle ground. There should only be one ground; positive ground. I know you're already there Housh. I'm trying to help get everyone else there.


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Postby FTN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:45:56

Exactly Paul. We shouldn't be expressing frustration in game threads. Those are the places to remember that Rollins won the MVP last year. And that Ruiz is a fine, upstanding citizen and drives a Cadillac. Game threads are just like every other thread.

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Postby FTN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 11:56:03

I'm also going to begin making changes on my site and shaping the voice there just as the voice here has been shaped. Negative comments regarding our prospects will be removed and when guys are traded for slop, negative reaction will also be removed.

Long live gated communities with lots of sunshine.

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Postby VoxOrion » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:02:15

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Postby Grotewold » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:02:55

I find the weekends, during which I usually miss the games and the game threads, much more enjoyable.

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Postby FTN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:04:29

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Postby TenuredVulture » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:06:50

FTN wrote:I'm also going to begin making changes on my site and shaping the voice there just as the voice here has been shaped. Negative comments regarding our prospects will be removed and when guys are traded for slop, negative reaction will also be removed.



Ah, you're going to have a memory hole on your site now. Excellent.
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Postby Grotewold » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:08:25

FTN wrote:Negative comments regarding our prospects will be removed


So much for Arbuckle's Clubhouse

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Postby FTN » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:14:07

I thought that maybe my service to this website would be to craft a list, ala Don Carman's list of 37 baseball cliches, which can be used in game threads to replace the typical negative banter. So whenever something "bad" happens, you can quickly reference the list and find an applicable note. We can have a list for each player.

Carlos Ruiz:

* Had 3 hit game v ARI on 5/5/08. 3 hit games for catchers are rare, Ruiz is an upper echelon hitter for his position

* 3/7 (.429) as a pinch hitter

* 1.268 OPS in 3-1 counts

* .333 hitter in extra innings

* Ruiz was selected to the 2007 Topps Major League Rookie All-Star Team

* In 2007 he had a .997 fielding percentage, with only 2 errors in 744 chances

* Stole home on 6/26/07 vs CIN, becoming the first Phillie to do so since 1997

* Phillies went went 13-5 in his final 18 starts in 2007.
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Postby Woody » Fri Aug 08, 2008 12:20:56

I think I'll work on a Phillies Random Negativity Generator widget, right after I finish that Flash version of Wheels bingo, and "The Wheelies"
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