"In this ever-changing world in which we live in"

TomatoPie wrote:"In this ever-changing world in which we live in"

I thought it was "ever-changing world in which we're livin'"

Didn't I? wrote:

ashton wrote:At the beginning of UFC events Mike Goldberg announces that the winner of each round gets ten points and the loser gets "nine points or less." I used to think it should be "nine points or fewer" but I've decided that "nine points or less" is correct, or at least, not wrong.

I think the rule is that if the word is referring to something you can count, you use the word fewer. If you're referring to an idea or things you can't count, you use the word less. So there are fewer people at the concert but less of a crowd, for example. I know this because I once wrote an advertising campaign using the word less when it should have been fewer. But honestly, less sounded better.

NO IT DIDN'T SOUND BETTER

As football season approaches, we'll hear more this:

It is what is.

Control our own Destiny.

phatj wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:"In this ever-changing world in which we live in"

I thought it was "ever-changing world in which we're livin'"

And I always knew it as:

But if this ever-changing world in which we're livin'/ Makes you give in and cry/ Say live and let die

phatj wrote:

Didn't I? wrote:

ashton wrote:At the beginning of UFC events Mike Goldberg announces that the winner of each round gets ten points and the loser gets "nine points or less." I used to think it should be "nine points or fewer" but I've decided that "nine points or less" is correct, or at least, not wrong.

I think the rule is that if the word is referring to something you can count, you use the word fewer. If you're referring to an idea or things you can't count, you use the word less. So there are fewer people at the concert but less of a crowd, for example. I know this because I once wrote an advertising campaign using the word less when it should have been fewer. But honestly, less sounded better.

NO IT DIDN'T SOUND BETTER

Got milk?

How do you count milk?

kopphanatic wrote:As football season approaches, we'll hear more this:

It is what is.

Control our own Destiny.

Nothing wrong with that grammatically, but yeah, that's annoying.

phatj wrote:How do you count milk?

I just meant that "Got Milk?" wasn't grammatically correct either, but to be honest I don't know if that's even true.

"Do you have any milk?" would have sounded pretty funny.

We need an udder infusion of puns in this thread

Woody wrote:We need an udder infusion of puns in this thread

You want this thread to unspool into nothing but useless needling?

phatj wrote:How do you count milk?

by the breast

djbigf wrote:

phatj wrote:How do you count milk?

by the breast

Didn't I? wrote:

phatj wrote:How do you count milk?

I just meant that "Got Milk?" wasn't grammatically correct either, but to be honest I don't know if that's even true.

I think technically "got milk?" is incorrect. But it's a commonly used colloquial construction and doesn't bother me.

I'm trying to imagine a situation where using "less" when "fewer" would be correct wouldn't sound wrong to me.

It is what it is is meaningless, but control your own destiny isn't.

TenuredVulture wrote:It is what it is is meaningless, but control your own destiny isn't.

I would say that just the opposite is true.

phatj wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:It is what it is is meaningless, but control your own destiny isn't.

I would say that just the opposite is true.

In the context of an NFL team, a team that controls its own destiny doesn't need any help--if they win, they make the playoffs regardless of what happens in other games. So, for instance, "The Giants control their own destiny and make the playoffs with a win against the Redskins. The Eagles need to beat the Cowboys and need the Giants to beat the Redskins to make the playoffs."

I have no idea what idea someone who says "it is what it is" is trying to express. Of course it is what it is. It's like saying A=A or 1=1. Unless of course you don't mean is in the sense of strict identity. But then the phrase it is what it is doesn't make much sense at all.

TenuredVulture wrote:

phatj wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:It is what it is is meaningless, but control your own destiny isn't.

I would say that just the opposite is true.

In the context of an NFL team, a team that controls its own destiny doesn't need any help--if they win, they make the playoffs regardless of what happens in other games. So, for instance, "The Giants control their own destiny and make the playoffs with a win against the Redskins. The Eagles need to beat the Cowboys and need the Giants to beat the Redskins to make the playoffs."

I have no idea what idea someone who says "it is what it is" is trying to express. Of course it is what it is. It's like saying A=A or 1=1. Unless of course you don't mean is in the sense of strict identity. But then the phrase it is what it is doesn't make much sense at all.

That's fine for control your own future. But the word destiny implies a predetermined outcome, in which neither of the teams would have any control.

In closing, I hate synonyms. No two words mean exactly the same thing or have the same connotations, therefore every word used matters. Grammar and syntax don't much bother me, but poor or confusing word choice has always been a pet peeve.

sorry ladies, they're taken!