The death of the newspaper industry (now w/ more zolecki)

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Dec 02, 2008 17:34:10

I am not working for the Post now either. Come to think of it I never actually worked there.

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Postby EndlessSummer » Tue Dec 02, 2008 17:49:24

That sucks. Radano was a really good beat writer, the kind that showed the value that the position still holds.

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Postby GrizzledVeteran » Tue Dec 02, 2008 17:50:17

Sean McCann, the Eagles beat guy from the Courier, is also out.
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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Dec 02, 2008 17:51:51

Jamie Moyer and Pat Burrell of the Philadelphia Phillies were not offered arbitration.

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Postby Grotewold » Tue Dec 02, 2008 17:52:21

GrizzledVeteran wrote:Sean McCann, the Eagles beat guy from the Courier, is also out.


Any word on whether their high school sports and city-desk reporters are safe? I'd assume those are the areas on which they'll focus their resources.

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Postby pacino » Tue Dec 02, 2008 18:32:10

sorry to hear about mrs grizz

i thought radano was great
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Postby BuddyGroom » Tue Dec 02, 2008 19:08:35

This is getting scary. I've heard no rumors about layoffs at my place - and I really trust my supervisors. But I'm still scared. I'm a little more than a year into a mortgage and I know how strong the competition is for editorial jobs out there, even in a stronger employment market like Metro DC.

I've been out of work before - even worked at coffeeshop for a year making $8 an hour plus tips - but that was when I had a relatively inexpensive apartment. I have no idea what I'd do now if I got laid off. I don't want to think about it.
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue Dec 02, 2008 19:26:57

I don't understand why either newspapers either:

A) Charge people to read them online. I read the Inquirer and Daily News every day for free. Why buy it?

B) Change the price to free for the print edition and then charge higher ad rates due to higher circulation
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Postby allentown » Tue Dec 02, 2008 19:34:53

Part of the problem is lack of a sound business model by newspapers. They are currently in the ode in which they are trying to sell the very same product that they give away for free via the internet. Not only that, but the stories are available quicker on-line than they are to the poor schmuck who actually purchases the paper. Not only that, but the premium content is available only to the freeby on-line user. I read the Washington Post on-line edition. Recently, the public editor was asked to respond to criticism that the Post's Presidential campaign coverage was rather superficial or process-oriented, rather than issues-oriented. In defense of the paper, he cited several features such as Fact Check and the Chris Ciliza column, but then stated as an aside that these features were only in the on-line edition and never appeared in print. So, what the Post considers its best political coverage is not even available to its paying customers. Now, that is a truly dumb business model. I remember reading an old-time columnist about a year ago, who said that papers would be better off if they stuck by the prostitute rule -- get the money up front.

In addition to giving away its product, newspapers don't seem to have adjusted to societal changes. Nobody really turns to the newspaper for national or international news. By the time it's in the paper, it was on TV and radio 12 hours previously and perhaps 24 hours previously on the internet. The papers need to focus on what they can uniquely provide. They can't be the source of headline national/international news, but they can provide interpretation, greater depth, honest-to-God investigative reporting that TV and radio can't. The internet bloggers do cover part of this field, but don't yet have the reach of radio/TV.

Beyond that, papers can focus on local news in communities that don't have TV. In this sense, the sports columnist provides more value than the national headlines off the AP wire. It is not hard to find the AP stories. A different take on the Eagles/Phillies may sell papers. Coverage of HS sports and local minors will sell papers. Covering the local School Board and City/township council meeting will sell papers. Reporting on local citizens and their doings will sell papers.

As papers economize, they need to focus on what they uniquely provide. They aren't about to replace the evening news.

Local papers are shadows of their former selves. They are still groping for a business model that works.
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Postby pacino » Tue Dec 02, 2008 22:29:34

Warszawa wrote:I don't understand why either newspapers either:

A) Charge people to read them online. I read the Inquirer and Daily News every day for free. Why buy it?

B) Change the price to free for the print edition and then charge higher ad rates due to higher circulation

Ya, I read the NY Times, Inky, DN, Reading Eagle, and Washington Post all for free. Sometimes I do pick up an actual copy of the DN if I am going to need it for some kind of lunch. Don't know how some kind of payment system can be hammered out w/o losing too many views though.

atown - Some local papers can take the above 'everything is local' theme to the extreme...such as the one paper in Texas(?) that didn't even cover who won on Nov 4th. There still needs to be national and international divisions for larger papers, who can then feed this to the local and small guys. I believe the Reading Eagle uses 'our news services' for a TON of their national and international stuff, and they're on pretty solid financial ground. They're actually expanding readership and coverage, I believe. Smaller papers can succeed, but like any other business they need to be set up well. The market won't accept a second-rate operation anymore. There's too many options.
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Postby Barry Jive » Tue Dec 02, 2008 22:30:25

newspapers don't make much money off subscriptions. they make money off advertising. that's why it's free on the internet, to drive up ad rates.
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Postby td11 » Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:13:40

roberts was pretty great himself... here's hoping they latch on somewhere else real soon.

and sorry to hear about mrs. grizz, grizz. :(
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Postby Drugs Delaney » Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:21:32

I thought the Obama election was supposed to put an end to this stuff. Am I to take it that he isn't the be all end all some would have us believe?

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Postby philliesphhan » Wed Dec 03, 2008 02:46:29

Drugs Delaney wrote:I thought the Obama election was supposed to put an end to this stuff. Am I to take it that he isn't the be all end all some would have us believe?


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Postby GrizzledVeteran » Wed Dec 03, 2008 05:41:59

Here's Radano's final blog post.

19 years, six months, 23 days and it’s all over
December 02, 2008 • 10:54 pm
By Michael Radano

I’m not going to get all teary-eyed, it just wouldn’t be right. Remember the saying is “there is no crying in baseball” but my time at the Courier-Post has come to an end, so maybe I’m not in baseball anymore.

On Tuesday, at 2:34 p.m. I was laid off. I was far from alone as our newsroom staff went from about 107 people to 70 in one day. The Courier-Post lost a lot of good people today and it’s a sad state of affairs for the newspaper industry as a whole.

I’m not bitter. I’m not angry. I’m saddened by the slow death of the industry for countless reasons. I do however want to thank some people before this blog comes to an end but certainly not everyone because I can’t think of everyone off the top of my head.

First I thank my wife Gina and sons Justin and Jake, for allowing me to put in odd hours and time away following baseball players of all things. You are my life.

I have to thank Albert and Bernadette, the first of whom taught me patience and the second taught me to say screw patience, let’s get this thing done.

I have to thank my first sports editor was Bob Kenney who hired me as a part-timer in April of 1988. More importantly, I have to thank Bob Kenney for not firing me because at 21, I was a complete jackass with a big mouth and probably should have been fired at least once, but probably twice.

Next, John Vogeding was my assistant sport editor and deserves a lot of credit for putting up with me. Voge actually understood me and while I drove him nuts, in the end he always laughed at my idiocy. When I took over wrestling everyone thought we’d kill each other bust instead I gained more respect for him than I ever had before. Then, when I went back last year, I think I saved his life. How’s that for irony?

Dave Treffinger was a guiding light not only for Varsity but as a calming influence. If you knew Bob and Voge you’d understand how important that was.

The Dream Team of part-timers as we dubbed ourselves in the early 90’s was worth the price of admission. Joe Koch showed us how to fall without spilling our coffee and Bob Viggiano the right way to handle Clarence Turner. Jeanne Sigman and Sue Tharp taught us how to handle Bob Viggiano. Bob “Flipper” Cabnet showed us how to torture high school girls when they called in scores. Bob Elder who once wrote a football story with no score until the tenth graph and shaved a B into the side of his head. Big Daddy Mike Horner who had a thing for hats worn only by Confederate plantation owners. Mike Shute, Tom McGurk and Mike Garbett who drove our local coverage as part-timers with full-time duties.

Bob Florich - what’s the matter Bobby? - deserves a ton of praise as the two of us made the agate page a one hour job and allowed us to mock Bob “Agateman” Brookover whose ego was matched only by his ability.

Thanks has to go to Chuck Bausman who took me off agate and allowed me to write and then hired me full-time. His departure opened the door for Diane Fuhrer, who put me on the Camden Riversharks and set the table for my four years with the Phillies and Janice Gill-Linneman who guided all of the above in the right direction. I also must thank Janice for doing my expenses before Cindy Grassia had me shot.

I’ve worked with some of the best writers in the region, all of whom I consider friends and wish I could still work with. From Don Benevento, who gave me a lead I use at least once a year “On a night the Phillies needed everything to go right, almost nothing did,” to Celeste Whittaker, Chuck Gormley - the hardest working man in show business - to Kevin Callahan, Walt Burrows - who has forgotten more about South Jersey sports than any of us will ever know - to Brookie, Sean McCann and Rusty Pray, I thank them all and all of those I’ve left out.

I must thank a slew of desk workers, all of whom have had to clean up copy that failed to use the right there/they’re/their nearly every night. To the Todd Shaner’s, Jeff Wolfe’s, Jeff Lyon’s, Chris Vivlamore’s and Chris Joneses of the world I say thank you. To the Kevin Minnick’s Karen Naylor’s, Anthony Miller’s and Barrie Dawson’s, I say sorry for that.

To Charlie Manuel, Rich Dubee, and of course Mick Billmeyer, I say thank you. To Milt Thompson, Bill Dancy, Steve Smith and Gary Varsho, I say thanks for your time. To the players, like Aaron Rowand and Cory Lidle and Scott Eyre and Brett Myers and Ryan Madson and Shane Victorino and Chris Coste and Greg Dobbs and 99% of you that gave me your time, I say thank you. To Chase Utley, I say sorry that we won’t be able to continue that social experiment, and it was nice knowing you.

To the Phillies PR staff, Larry Shenk, Bonnie Clark, Leah Tobin Greg Casterioto, Kevin Gregg, Ms. Gettis and Ms. Sabeac I say thanks for your help. To the front office, David Montgomery, Ruben Amaro Jr., Mike Arbuckle, Steve Noworyta, Mike Ondo et. al., it was never as bad as some would have you believe.

Finally, I have to thank two people for all of their help over the last eight years.

Without Kevin Roberts, I would have amounted to nothing as a pro baseball beat writer. Through all of the laughs and silliness - and there was a lot of silliness - I learned more from you than anyone. Most of all, I knew if I wrote just to have you read something, you would give me an honest appraisal. You made me a better writer just by sitting next too me at countless baseball games and more than a few football games as well.

Last but certainly not least, I have to thank Phil Anastasia, simply the best sports columnist and writer this city has produced in the last 20 years. You gave me the shot at doing the Phillies and your faith in me helped me get through my first year, which is never easy. Without your guidance, I’d have no future right now and for that I am eternally in your debt.

Looking back on 20 years at the Courier-Post I can sum it all up with only one sentence and two thoughts. One sentence and a pair of thoughts that sums up 20 years of work and a certain maturity, because that 21-year old jackass would have written something completely different given today’s circumstances.

No Maria, cheerleading is still not a sport and I’m still a bit of a jackass.
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Postby GrizzledVeteran » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:27:40

Update....the CP took down Mike's blog.
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Postby jamiethekiller » Wed Dec 03, 2008 11:54:59

wow. cutthroat

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Postby FTN » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:04:34

still there for me

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Postby GrizzledVeteran » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:21:56

They just put it back. I can't imagine it'll be up for long.
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Postby Rev_Beezer » Wed Dec 03, 2008 12:57:11

What does he mean by "social experiment" in regards to Chase?
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