Philly the Kid wrote:
lot of people in their 20's and early 30's got in to jazz via sampling in Hip Hop...

Us3's Cantaloop deriving from Herbie Hancock's Cantaloupe Island, with nods to Art Blakey & Lou Donaldson along the way, is an example

kimbatiste wrote:I think I would enjoy the harmony and melody more than chaotic drums. Some bands to give you an idea would be Sigur Ros, Rilo Kiley, Postal Service, Pavement, Flaming Lips.

I looked over your list of artists -- Jazz is really REALLY different than anything you have there. Looks like you are in to 'bands' and a little singer songwriter --

So I've been struggling to think of anything that could bridge your realm that would open you up toward some Jazz eventually? I think it would require a few things -- look for artists that use some amplified guitar -- John Scofield came to mind, there are guys who aren't straight jazz players that use guitar -- I noticed one of the artists you listed had some fast drum-n-bass influenced drums...

Why not try this guy:

Erik Truffaz
May give a listen to something called the Chicago Quartet
There's a singer since you liked Rilo Kiley -- that isn't straight jazz either named Jenna Mammina - she never blew up entirely so you'd have to kind of suss her mySpace etc...

Maybe start with some jazz electronica? Jazzanova, Nuspriti Helsinki, K&D Sessions? I think you would like Buck165 or Plaid actually -- I'll see what else I can come up with ---

Where are you with things like Portishead?

Or Norah Jones?

There wasn't much "Black" in any of the bands you listed...

I'm thinking rather than traditional straight ahead jazz or jazz standards you might be able to get in to some borderline stuff that has a different feeling to it ... I'll see what else i can recommend.

PtK, if you listen to Pavement, there is a jazzy essence to it. It's why James Carter was able to put out a jazz Pavement album

The Dude wrote:PtK, if you listen to Pavement, there is a jazzy essence to it. It's why James Carter was able to put out a jazz Pavement album

I wasn't super familiar but I checked out a few tracks on YouTube, they were cool ... probably the band I liked most of the ones listed...

Philly the Kid wrote:I would suggest finding the YouTube of Giant Steps by Coltrane where the printed out in notes the entire Coltrane solo. THEN play the McCoy solo piano clip from the 90's.... McCoy and Gonzalo for instance -- expand the chords and the harmonies, play at very fast tempos the Gonzalo has a lot of complex drum work behind him... they have moved the music forwards in terms of approach....

Kid, thought you'd be interested to know that this morning Jazz on the Tube emailed me this link to a video of Tyner playing Giant Steps:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukuQPUKfyU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

drsmooth wrote:

Philly the Kid wrote:I would suggest finding the YouTube of Giant Steps by Coltrane where the printed out in notes the entire Coltrane solo. THEN play the McCoy solo piano clip from the 90's.... McCoy and Gonzalo for instance -- expand the chords and the harmonies, play at very fast tempos the Gonzalo has a lot of complex drum work behind him... they have moved the music forwards in terms of approach....

Kid, thought you'd be interested to know that this morning Jazz on the Tube emailed me this link to a video of Tyner playing Giant Steps:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PukuQPUKfyU&feature=player_embedded[/youtube]

That's the one I was referring to. Sadly, he can no longer play like that... between age and some strokes I heard rumor of ... I saw an SFJAZZ event some years ago, 75th b-day for Tommy Flanagan, and McCoy was on the bill later -- and TOmmy was nice, soulful, but old -- McCOy was blazing, now McCoy is like 72 and for the last 2-3 years he isn't the same guy. He's very gaunt now ... health issues caught up with him. I remember years ago in the early-mid-80's I went to the old Lush Life club in the Village to see him with a bunch of my boyz from Philly and NYC -- and we talked to him for a minute -- one of my boys teased him about his paunch ( i was horrified) and he laughed said "it's all that airport food" ...

This sounds pretty cool:

Nomadic SFJazz To Settle Into Permanent Home

What say, PtK?

drsmooth wrote:This sounds pretty cool:

Nomadic SFJazz To Settle Into Permanent Home

What say, PtK?

Klein is a powerhouse. i think its great. I'm not down with a lot of things about SFJazz and the way they do stuff, but I DO think its important that a major institution like that exist and to put it in the same zone with the Symphony and Opera and other offialdom is brill. This art-form needs something. I'm for it!

Every so often I'll stop into one of the local Goodwills and check if they have any good records. I never find anything. But yesterday imagine my delight when Freddie caught my eye. Not one of his more well known albums, but I really enjoy it and it set me back a buck.

Slowhand wrote:Every so often I'll stop into one of the local Goodwills and check if they have any good records. I never find anything. But yesterday imagine my delight when Freddie caught my eye. Not one of his more well known albums, but I really enjoy it and it set me back a buck.

wow - i was not familiar w/this one, but from what i read you've picked up a dandy, especially for a buck

Speaking of dandies, June 2010 is a dandy-with-a-capital-D month for jazz in NYC.

An unbelievable assortment of contemporary jazz standouts performing at any number of venues in Manhattan & Brooklyn & who knows where else, practically every night of the month.

Zorn to Alden, JD Allen to Rudy Royston, Ralph Alessi to David Binney to Braxton to Marc Cary to Evan Christopher to Anat Cohen to Marty Erlich to Roy Hargrove to Hersh (Fred Hersch with Billy Hart!) to Vijay Iyer to Lovano to James Moody to Jason Moran to Gretchen Parlato to Jaleel Shaw to Matthew Shipp to Marcus Strickland to Jackie Terrasson to Tolliver to Tyner to Saschel Vasandani to Nasheet Waits, old farts (Brubeck? He's still alive?) to young tarts (Helen Sung), you have it all - oh but you really have to break the bank to see 'em: anywhere from $7, all the way to maybe $40 to catch Jack DeJohnette.

I'll be hearing something of some of all of that, can't decide what part just yet....see you there.....

drsmooth wrote:Speaking of dandies, June 2010 is a dandy-with-a-capital-D month for jazz in NYC.

An unbelievable assortment of contemporary jazz standouts performing at any number of venues in Manhattan & Brooklyn & who knows where else, practically every night of the month.

Zorn to Alden, JD Allen to Rudy Royston, Alessi to Binney to Braxton to Cary to Cohen to Iyer to Hargrove to Hersh (Fred Hersch with Billy Hart!) to Lovano to Moran to Parlato to Jaleel Shaw to Marcus Strickland to Terrasson to Tolliver to Vasandani to Nasheet Waits, old farts (Brubeck? He's still alive?) to young tarts (Helen Sung), you have it all - oh but you really have to break the bank to see 'em: anywhere from $7, all the way to maybe $40 to catch Jack DeJohnette.

I'll be hearing something of some of all of that, can't decide what part just yet....see you there.....

Sounds amazing. I was I could fly in to get in on some of that... but its a bad timing for me ... I was supposed to be going to Paris for Fete de La Musique on Jun21st - still hoping I can pull it off somehow...

Braxton was one my thesis advisors in grad school - a very special unique guy. Great musician and composer. Really nice sweet guy. A coupe names there I don't know -- will have to look up.

So according to this poll, there are at least 8 people who diet on jazz. Who is listening to what? Smooth mentions his rotation. Who else has some tasty examples?

If you need a good jazz station you can stream KCSM here in the Bay Area, full-time Jazz station, some good Latin Jazz on the weekends -- solid station. Not as radical as WRTI was in the 70's but solid.

Philly the Kid wrote:So according to this poll, there are at least 8 people who diet on jazz. Who is listening to what? Smooth mentions his rotation. Who else has some tasty examples?

If you need a good jazz station you can stream KCSM here in the Bay Area, full-time Jazz station, some good Latin Jazz on the weekends -- solid station. Not as radical as WRTI was in the 70's but solid.

Kid, I'm right now listening to a lot of Mingus (Live in Antibes, Black Saint & The Sinner Lady), JR Monterose, and, among the living, guitarist Vic Juris & alto David Binney. I have recordings of Grace Kelly (one with Lee Konitz), but have not gotten attached as yet.

For our jazz fans, and those who would like some resources and suggestions, here's the 2010 Jazz Journalists Association picks o' the year.

JJA are sometimes accused of clubbiness ("they just pick winners amongst their friends every year"), but the list of resources & players is solid enough to be worth a look.

Curiously, no pick for top jazz radio station - not one of their categories.

Trumpeter Lee Morgan would have been 72 yesterday. If you've heard any jazz, you've likely heard him, playing a tune called The Sidewinder. He was gut-shot by his lady friend in 1972, while performing, as I understand it.

Here he is in a vid clip playing Moanin', a hard-bop standard (a few other nifty Morgan clips follow):

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doing a Mercer compilation & naturally turned to Sinatra's incomparable Songs for Swingin Lovers

And I have to ask: is there a more hideous-looking image of a female on the jacket of a monumental album than the dog throwing her arms around the neck of a (let's admit it) Freddie Rumsen lookalike on the cover of SFSL?

I'm here to say there's not

EDIT: oh yeah the Mercer tune I was after is I Thought About You

(Tho Too Marvelous For Words is - well - marvelous)

interesting news about 2 jazz-centric flicks: the 1st a silent movie (?!?) based loosely on Louis Armstrong (jazz score), the 2nd a 2-hour feature imagining the life of Buddy Bolden, both produced by boy-billionaire Dan Pritzker of the Chicago (& elsewhere, naturally) real-estate Pritzkers:

A Silent Musical

At the end of the summer movie season, the fledgling director Dan Pritzker believes he’s got a film that will satisfy an audience unmoved by superhero sequels and 3-D extravaganzas: a black-and-white silent movie (with hints of color) based loosely on the childhood of Louis Armstrong. And for the price of your ticket, you also get music composed and arranged by Wynton Marsalis, and performed live by him and a group of 11 other musicians....

Mr. Pritzker, who shot “Louis” in tandem with his movie “Bolden” in 2007 (and spent more than $10 million in the process), originally planned to release the two films simultaneously. But he said the Armstrong film was released first because “I finished the ‘Louis’ film first.”

He added: “My wife said, you’d better do something with it or you’re going to drive me crazy.” “Bolden,” a traditional, two-hour feature with color and sound, and a cast that includes Anthony Mackie (“The Hurt Locker”) and Wendell Pierce (“The Wire,” “Treme”), will be released “when it’s ready to come out,” he said, most likely in late 2011 or 2012. (It does not yet have distribution.)

drsmooth wrote:interesting news about 2 jazz-centric flicks: the 1st a silent movie (?!?) based loosely on Louis Armstrong (jazz score), the 2nd a 2-hour feature imagining the life of Buddy Bolden, both produced by boy-billionaire Dan Pritzker of the Chicago (& elsewhere, naturally) real-estate Pritzkers:

A Silent Musical

At the end of the summer movie season, the fledgling director Dan Pritzker believes he’s got a film that will satisfy an audience unmoved by superhero sequels and 3-D extravaganzas: a black-and-white silent movie (with hints of color) based loosely on the childhood of Louis Armstrong. And for the price of your ticket, you also get music composed and arranged by Wynton Marsalis, and performed live by him and a group of 11 other musicians....

Mr. Pritzker, who shot “Louis” in tandem with his movie “Bolden” in 2007 (and spent more than $10 million in the process), originally planned to release the two films simultaneously. But he said the Armstrong film was released first because “I finished the ‘Louis’ film first.”

He added: “My wife said, you’d better do something with it or you’re going to drive me crazy.” “Bolden,” a traditional, two-hour feature with color and sound, and a cast that includes Anthony Mackie (“The Hurt Locker”) and Wendell Pierce (“The Wire,” “Treme”), will be released “when it’s ready to come out,” he said, most likely in late 2011 or 2012. (It does not yet have distribution.)

I don't what it is and has always been, about Wynton Marsalis that has left me cold?

I've said this before, but he has positioned himself and his career to try to make himself in to this generations Duke Ellington or something, like that, and the thing is.... you can't become "a Duke Ellington" by trying to be, you either are an innovator or not. Wynton has made a nice contribution to the literacy, respect, historical honoring -- he has always been "serious" and I respect both his natural skill/talent, and his serious-mindedness. (though when he was 19, he was pretentious about it), but the thing is, he hasn't invented anything new. he hasn't pushed the music forwards. he has honored the past. Not created any new pathes in to the future.

I am curious though to see these flics and hear his score.

Blanchard has done some nice scores for commercial films.

Philly the Kid wrote:

drsmooth wrote:interesting news about 2 jazz-centric flicks: the 1st a silent movie (?!?) based loosely on Louis Armstrong (jazz score), the 2nd a 2-hour feature imagining the life of Buddy Bolden, both produced by boy-billionaire Dan Pritzker of the Chicago (& elsewhere, naturally) real-estate Pritzkers:

A Silent Musical

At the end of the summer movie season, the fledgling director Dan Pritzker believes he’s got a film that will satisfy an audience unmoved by superhero sequels and 3-D extravaganzas: a black-and-white silent movie (with hints of color) based loosely on the childhood of Louis Armstrong. And for the price of your ticket, you also get music composed and arranged by Wynton Marsalis, and performed live by him and a group of 11 other musicians....

Mr. Pritzker, who shot “Louis” in tandem with his movie “Bolden” in 2007 (and spent more than $10 million in the process), originally planned to release the two films simultaneously. But he said the Armstrong film was released first because “I finished the ‘Louis’ film first.”

He added: “My wife said, you’d better do something with it or you’re going to drive me crazy.” “Bolden,” a traditional, two-hour feature with color and sound, and a cast that includes Anthony Mackie (“The Hurt Locker”) and Wendell Pierce (“The Wire,” “Treme”), will be released “when it’s ready to come out,” he said, most likely in late 2011 or 2012. (It does not yet have distribution.)

I don't what it is and has always been, about Wynton Marsalis that has left me cold?

I've said this before, but he has positioned himself and his career to try to make himself in to this generations Duke Ellington or something, like that, and the thing is.... you can't become "a Duke Ellington" by trying to be, you either are an innovator or not. Wynton has made a nice contribution to the literacy, respect, historical honoring -- he has always been "serious" and I respect both his natural skill/talent, and his serious-mindedness. (though when he was 19, he was pretentious about it), but the thing is, he hasn't invented anything new. he hasn't pushed the music forwards. he has honored the past. Not created any new pathes in to the future.

I am curious though to see these flics and hear his score.

Blanchard has done some nice scores for commercial films.

I still find his old man (pianist Ellis) is more listenable than wynton. W's in a curious position; he's a technical master whose performing is charitably described as detached (I've taken in 3-4 of his live performances; none are worth recounting), who is a prominent face of contemporary jazz yet almost entirely ignored by his contemporaries; whose compositions are critically well-regarded, but whose playing is - well, seldom even commented on anymore, it seems.

I'm interested in Pritzker's connection. The guy has money enough to make bunches of jazz-centric films if he's so inclined; I'm just hoping these 2 tentative efforts get enough attention to loosen his purse strings for further projects.