I was initially mad at you guys picking on them for believing he saw heaven, then I got to the part where he described Jesus's face.

it's not usually my business to make fun of little kids, but i think this merited it a little.

i almost died too when i was 9, i didnt see crap

philliesphhan wrote:I was initially mad at you guys picking on them for believing he saw heaven, then I got to the part where he described Jesus's face.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9MiFybqLFeY[/youtube]

Non-practicing Catholic

I do enjoy going on Christmas though because God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen and Angels We Have Heard on High are pretty legit jams

O Little Town of Bethlehem ftw

Someone was trying to force me to admit I'm a "lapsed Catholic," as though once you're a Catholic you're a Catholic forever. I think it was my roommate. Either way, it's bull shit. There's nothing incorrect about me saying "I was Catholic," because I'm not anymore. I converted. To a lack of religion.

I don't actually care enough to say "lack of religion."

It just is what it is

The Eeming Tree wrote:Non-practicing Catholic

I do enjoy going on Christmas though because God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen and Angels We Have Heard on High are pretty legit jams

O Come All Ye Faithful in Latin, Silent Night, and O Holy Night(with organ and choir only) are pretty awesome too.

TheDude24 wrote:

Paul wrote: Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.

I read this recently in a bible study [Philippians 2:1-4]. The text immediately before it and after is also powerful- and in context, more powerful yet. I mean it doesn't get any clearer than that. I (or we all) should print that out and put it somewhere where I can reread it constantly, so I remember to live my life this way.

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One of the problems with Christianity and religion in general is that too much focus is on stuff like little kids dying and seeing Jesus' face and then coming back to life and almost no emphasis is on stuff like the above.

This is one of the parts of the Bible that is really a great example of using the book as a way to make really cool lifestyle choices. This and the Sermon on the Mount and the part where Jesus washes the feet of the dinner guests and says really cool stuff like let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And where Jesus is a real radical who hangs around with tax collectors and prostitutes and actually treats women with dignity and respect and breaks all sorts of stupid "religious" rules and tells off the big shot religious leaders of his day and other cool stuff like that.

You don't even have to believe in God or be a Christian to follow a lot of what Jesus taught and said and a lot of non-Christians do that pretty well and those folks are blessed with Grace as far as I'm concerned.

So while Fox News and other folks are focusing on the stupid stuff like a kid who died and saw Jesus' face and killing homosexuals and bombing abortion clinics and slaying heathens and other parts of Christianity and religion that they don't really have a good grasp of, I really believe they're missing the boat regarding what this stuff is supposed to be all about.

I don't think getting into big arguments and making a big deal about who is gonna burn in hell and who is saved and going on the TV and asking folks to send in their money so you can build your Jesus Theme park with talking horses and that kinda thing is all that much about being a good Christian.

Anyways, there are lots of really awesome parts of the Bible (and Koran and Talmud most likely) that are really great to read and study and discuss and make a good attempt to try and live your life by (falling short mostly but trying again and again to get it as right as you can).

Anyways, I'd bet a few bucks that Rev Beezer gets it if I'm reading his posts correctly.

Hey the pope said something about condoms not being completely evil

Good for you, pope

as long as they're sheepskin

jerseyhoya wrote:Hey the pope said something about condoms not being completely evil

Good for you, pope

Apparently, they protect you from AIDS.

kopphanatic wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote:Hey the pope said something about condoms not being completely evil

Good for you, pope

Apparently, they protect you from AIDS.

I think he meant they would be ok for male sex workers to use. I guess since they are already sinning, adding a condom doesn't make it worse.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/11/23/tex ... ed/?hpt=T2

priest rapes boy
then hired assassin to kill the boy he raped.

sounds like a Steven Seagal flick

smitty wrote:

TheDude24 wrote:

Paul wrote: Therefore if there is any encouragement in Christ, if there is any consolation of love, if there is any fellowship of the Spirit, if any affection and compassion, make my joy complete by being of the same mind, maintaining the same love, united in spirit, intent on one purpose. Do nothing from selfishness or empty conceit, but with humility of mind regard one another as more important than yourselves; do not merely look out for your own personal interests, but also for the interests of others.

I read this recently in a bible study [Philippians 2:1-4]. The text immediately before it and after is also powerful- and in context, more powerful yet. I mean it doesn't get any clearer than that. I (or we all) should print that out and put it somewhere where I can reread it constantly, so I remember to live my life this way.

One of the problems with Christianity and religion in general is that too much focus is on stuff like little kids dying and seeing Jesus' face and then coming back to life and almost no emphasis is on stuff like the above.

This is one of the parts of the Bible that is really a great example of using the book as a way to make really cool lifestyle choices. This and the Sermon on the Mount and the part where Jesus washes the feet of the dinner guests and says really cool stuff like let he who is without sin cast the first stone.

And where Jesus is a real radical who hangs around with tax collectors and prostitutes and actually treats women with dignity and respect and breaks all sorts of stupid "religious" rules and tells off the big shot religious leaders of his day and other cool stuff like that.

You don't even have to believe in God or be a Christian to follow a lot of what Jesus taught and said and a lot of non-Christians do that pretty well and those folks are blessed with Grace as far as I'm concerned.

So while Fox News and other folks are focusing on the stupid stuff like a kid who died and saw Jesus' face and killing homosexuals and bombing abortion clinics and slaying heathens and other parts of Christianity and religion that they don't really have a good grasp of, I really believe they're missing the boat regarding what this stuff is supposed to be all about.

I don't think getting into big arguments and making a big deal about who is gonna burn in hell and who is saved and going on the TV and asking folks to send in their money so you can build your Jesus Theme park with talking horses and that kinda thing is all that much about being a good Christian.

Anyways, there are lots of really awesome parts of the Bible (and Koran and Talmud most likely) that are really great to read and study and discuss and make a good attempt to try and live your life by (falling short mostly but trying again and again to get it as right as you can).

Anyways, I'd bet a few bucks that Rev Beezer gets it if I'm reading his posts correctly.[/quote]

Yep. This is pretty much where I am.

I'm sorry I don't participate that much in this thread. It's too much like work for me.

But all the above is pretty much right on track and the church would look very different than it does today if that was the basket where most of the people put their eggs.

Also, I hate what country music does with religion, specifically Christianity.

Of all the commandments, I find Thou Shalt Not Covet the hardest to follow. Then I think, where would the world be if people didn't covet? Folks would stop showing up for work, they'd stop buying stuff they don't need, and it would be chaos.

TenuredVulture wrote:Of all the commandments, I find Thou Shalt Not Covet the hardest to follow. Then I think, where would the world be if people didn't covet? Folks would stop showing up for work, they'd stop buying stuff they don't need, and it would be chaos.

People would go to work because of job satisfaction

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"God is your intellectual laziness; God is your ego. [...] God is the sum of all your willful ignorance."

Not only is there no God, but try to find a plumber on the weekend.