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Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 07:22:11

Hear a story on NPR that "the wall" is being plowed across Native America sacred lands. The Native America's protested and were arrested. There is a law that says the government has to have discussions about access to lands. The CBP guy interviewed said they had discussions, but at the end of the day it is going to be what it is.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 07:29:23

Quick survey of headlines that I do not need the frustration of reading the stories:

The Hill & WaPo: Trump and advisers considering firing FBI director after election

AP: US urges countries to withdraw from UN nuke ban treaty

USA Today:Tax returns show Biden amassed wealth since 2017 through speeches and books
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Thu Oct 22, 2020 08:24:45

I spent some time on the Mexican border working with the Border Patrol and ICE about 15 years ago.

BLUF: Native American reservations are treated like independent nations. Federal entities have to be invited onto the land by the tribal leadership. This caused a great deal of angst in Arizona because there is a large reservation that spans across the US-Mexican border and there was substantial human and narcotics smuggling through the reservation.

I am very, very surprised about this - I don't think it's true if they are talking about reservations, but if they are just using the "sacred land" argument it has no legal backing (but a great deal of political clout and never forget what happened in Poltergeist).


thephan wrote:Hear a story on NPR that "the wall" is being plowed across Native America sacred lands. The Native America's protested and were arrested. There is a law that says the government has to have discussions about access to lands. The CBP guy interviewed said they had discussions, but at the end of the day it is going to be what it is.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 22, 2020 08:56:41

the kid's school just announced a LFH day on 11/3 in order to allow parents and staff adequate flexibility to vote. Nice. (And in my case my kid, too, in case his mail-in ballot request doesn't get processed and back in time. I was on his case for a month and he finally sent it in last Tuesday, but PA still is showing as not enrolled in mail-in voting).

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 09:00:50

So I googled: 'npr native american border wall' and there is a lot of reporting. there are stories about 'Border Wall Cuts Through Native American Burial Sites', endangering the 'Organ Pipe Cactus National Monument, recognized by the United Nations as an international biosphere reserve', and more. I cannot parse out if there are lands that are part of the reservation or something else easily/quickly.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 09:03:17

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Accurate account of Trump folly
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:05:32

wonder if it would make life easier for the ballot counters if i didn't seal my secrecy envelope. Or could that be considered an invalid ballot?

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:08:49

Bucky wrote:wonder if it would make life easier for the ballot counters if i didn't seal my secrecy envelope. Or could that be considered an invalid ballot?


Sarcasm I hope!
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:13:09

no, serious question! The instructions say to seal it. I don't know if these all have to be cracked open by hand or if there is a machine. if the former, every unsealed ballot helps them go a little quicker.

with all the contrived controversy around mail-in, if the wrong person gets to make the decision on valid/invalid, this may get tossed

spoiler: i sealed it

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Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 22, 2020 10:28:00

Yeah would just follow the instructions.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:03:02

Bucky wrote:no, serious question! The instructions say to seal it. I don't know if these all have to be cracked open by hand or if there is a machine. if the former, every unsealed ballot helps them go a little quicker.

with all the contrived controversy around mail-in, if the wrong person gets to make the decision on valid/invalid, this may get tossed

spoiler: i sealed it



Most of the counties around here bought big machines to open both envelopes.

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Postby The B1G Piece » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:11:01

Luzinski's Gut wrote:I spent some time on the Mexican border working with the Border Patrol and ICE about 15 years ago.

BLUF: Native American reservations are treated like independent nations. Federal entities have to be invited onto the land by the tribal leadership. This caused a great deal of angst in Arizona because there is a large reservation that spans across the US-Mexican border and there was substantial human and narcotics smuggling through the reservation.

I am very, very surprised about this - I don't think it's true if they are talking about reservations, but if they are just using the "sacred land" argument it has no legal backing (but a great deal of political clout and never forget what happened in Poltergeist).


thephan wrote:Hear a story on NPR that "the wall" is being plowed across Native America sacred lands. The Native America's protested and were arrested. There is a law that says the government has to have discussions about access to lands. The CBP guy interviewed said they had discussions, but at the end of the day it is going to be what it is.

This has been happening all summer with the Tohono O'odham at the AZ-Mexico border for most of the summer. LG is right, the members of the tribe are pissed because they're taking water from a scared above ground water source (the Sonoran Desert is very hot, by the way, and lacks the water resources of other places in the country) and CBP has been plowing through parts of the Organ Pipe National Monument. I fucking despise the wall for obvious reasons.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:24:04

I’m at the point where UNC is up 15 with 6 min left over duke but because duke will inevitably start hitting all of their 3s I’m still clenched and awaiting the Austin rivers dick punch.

Or maybe it’s the Gonzaga game where I was despondent until I wasn’t.

Please win.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:42:08

CalvinBall wrote:
Bucky wrote:no, serious question! The instructions say to seal it. I don't know if these all have to be cracked open by hand or if there is a machine. if the former, every unsealed ballot helps them go a little quicker.

with all the contrived controversy around mail-in, if the wrong person gets to make the decision on valid/invalid, this may get tossed

spoiler: i sealed it



Most of the counties around here bought big machines to open both envelopes.


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All depends on what your definition of 'open' is.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby threecount » Thu Oct 22, 2020 11:58:19

Trump just released the entire 60 Minutes Interview...

What a train wreck

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/watch-tr ... interview/

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:03:54

not sure if this belongs here, but given a lot of his BSG mentions have to do with his trump fawnings, and this piece is largely about that, but anyway:

Scott Adams is a neon sign flashing "Dunning-Kruger effect!" at the world

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:07:33

threecount wrote:Trump just released the entire 60 Minutes Interview...

What a train wreck

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/watch-tr ... interview/


9D chess, remember.

He states that he hopes SCOTUS ends the ACA. He somehow thinks this makes him look good? What a giant fool.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:32:54

She called him on talking points over facts and the pissing match was on. I only listened a little, but it is spew. Low the clearing the jump rope laying on the ground with the claim that his job numbers posted in recovery are like nothing ever seen before (true in almost every way except how he thinks).

Good job with the spy cam cellphone. I hope CBS is locked and loaded with a response.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:42:14

CalvinBall wrote:
threecount wrote:Trump just released the entire 60 Minutes Interview...

What a train wreck

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/watch-tr ... interview/


9D chess, remember.

He states that he hopes SCOTUS ends the ACA. He somehow thinks this makes him look good? What a giant fool.


He’s so far up his own ass on the media and Obama that he doesn’t realize how poorly it plays.

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Postby JFLNYC » Thu Oct 22, 2020 12:47:42

It'll play great with his supporters, for whatever that's worth.
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