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Postby momadance » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:00:11


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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:04:41

Somehow I managed to get through that entire interview. It wasn't easy. I love it when Trump contradicts himself like two minutes after his original statement (i.e. ACA/healthcare).

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:08:19

traderdave wrote:Somehow I managed to get through that entire interview. It wasn't easy. I love it when Trump contradicts himself like two minutes after his original statement (i.e. ACA/healthcare).


He's going to get killed on that in the debate tonight. So dumb to release it today.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:08:28

NYT/Siena poll in Kansas has Trump up 48-41. Trump won kansas by 20 in 2016.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:19:10

He just constantly plays victim. I wish somebody would just say to him: "Look, you've lived a great, successful life. You were born into money, a white male in the US and have had all the advantages that entails. Will you please stop playing the victim card. It's just so beneath you and the office you now hold. Just man up and stop whining."
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Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:22:15

I had a fleeting thought about Tangier Island. Trump promised to invest billions to save them because they love him. Although nothing has been done and things are as bad as ever, that seems to mean little to the people that live there. Of course a big part of the problem is that people live there.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:24:44

JFLNYC wrote:He just constantly plays victim. I wish somebody would just say to him: "Look, you've lived a great, successful life. You were born into money, a white male in the US and have had all the advantages that entails. Will you please stop playing the victim card. It's just so beneath you and the office you now hold. Just man up and stop whining."


The only people he listens to would never, ever say that or anything remotely like it.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Napalm » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:26:35

JFLNYC wrote:He just constantly plays victim. I wish somebody would just say to him: "Look, you've lived a great, successful life. You were born into money, a white male in the US and have had all the advantages that entails. Will you please stop playing the victim card. It's just so beneath you and the office you now hold. Just man up and stop whining."

I'd rather have Stone Cold Steve Austin give him the Stunner, although the rattlesnake seems like he might be a republican in which case I guess i'd settle for the Rock Bottom

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Luzinski's Gut » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:30:08

That's the reservation I was referencing. The legal question is where the water source is located, if it's off the native lands, they have no legal standing. If it's on native lands, the tribe should be taking the USG to court through the Bureau of Indian Affairs and the Department of the Interior.

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Luzinski's Gut wrote:I spent some time on the Mexican border working with the Border Patrol and ICE about 15 years ago.

BLUF: Native American reservations are treated like independent nations. Federal entities have to be invited onto the land by the tribal leadership. This caused a great deal of angst in Arizona because there is a large reservation that spans across the US-Mexican border and there was substantial human and narcotics smuggling through the reservation.

I am very, very surprised about this - I don't think it's true if they are talking about reservations, but if they are just using the "sacred land" argument it has no legal backing (but a great deal of political clout and never forget what happened in Poltergeist).


thephan wrote:Hear a story on NPR that "the wall" is being plowed across Native America sacred lands. The Native America's protested and were arrested. There is a law that says the government has to have discussions about access to lands. The CBP guy interviewed said they had discussions, but at the end of the day it is going to be what it is.

This has been happening all summer with the Tohono O'odham at the AZ-Mexico border for most of the summer. LG is right, the members of the tribe are pissed because they're taking water from a scared above ground water source (the Sonoran Desert is very hot, by the way, and lacks the water resources of other places in the country) and CBP has been plowing through parts of the Organ Pipe National Monument. I fucking despise the wall for obvious reasons.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:46:36

thephan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:He just constantly plays victim. I wish somebody would just say to him: "Look, you've lived a great, successful life. You were born into money, a white male in the US and have had all the advantages that entails. Will you please stop playing the victim card. It's just so beneath you and the office you now hold. Just man up and stop whining."


The only people he listens to would never, ever say that or anything remotely like it.


I don’t care whether it’s somebody he listens to or anyone else. I just want someone (e.g., an interviewer) to say it to him in public. It would also be nice if whoever said it gave him a diaper and a crying towel.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:51:25

His parents mind fucked him in different ways

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:54:52

That’s the job of parents.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby azrider » Thu Oct 22, 2020 13:58:33

JFLNYC wrote:
thephan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:He just constantly plays victim. I wish somebody would just say to him: "Look, you've lived a great, successful life. You were born into money, a white male in the US and have had all the advantages that entails. Will you please stop playing the victim card. It's just so beneath you and the office you now hold. Just man up and stop whining."


The only people he listens to would never, ever say that or anything remotely like it.


I don’t care whether it’s somebody he listens to or anyone else. I just want someone (e.g., an interviewer) to say it to him in public. It would also be nice if whoever said it gave him a diaper and a crying towel.


here's a good place to start

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_T ... signations

i think a lot of people/advisors/grifters told them what they think of him.

going back to those comments about him being authoritarian and not leaving the white house or whatever. the guy can't piece together and an administration that doesn't detest him, yet people fear him? he's a pompous windbag, who very well may throw a tantrum on the way out, but they will change the locks to the door and nobody is going to let him back in. dude's a grifter, nothing more, nothing less.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby Bill McNeal » Thu Oct 22, 2020 14:18:45

I mean...
A Dutch security researcher says he accessed President Trump’s @realDonaldTrump Twitter account last week by guessing his password: “maga2020!”.

Victor Gevers, a security researcher at the GDI Foundation and chair of the Dutch Institute for Vulnerability Disclosure, which finds and reports security vulnerabilities, told TechCrunch he guessed the president’s account password and was successful on the fifth attempt.

The account was not protected by two-factor authentication, granting Gevers access to the president’s account.


https://techcrunch.com/2020/10/22/dutch ... -password/

This wasn’t even the first time this guy has guessed Trump’s twitter password, he accessed it in 2016 as well.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby azrider » Thu Oct 22, 2020 14:20:51

forgot to add "idiot" on my previous rant.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu Oct 22, 2020 14:49:17

thephan wrote:I had a fleeting thought about Tangier Island. Trump promised to invest billions to save them because they love him. Although nothing has been done and things are as bad as ever, that seems to mean little to the people that live there. Of course a big part of the problem is that people live there.


Tangier and Smith Islands are some weird ass places.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Oct 22, 2020 14:53:56

A new lawsuit in PA was filed challenging the 3 days of extra time to count mail in ballots postmarked by election day. Barrett likely will be on SCOTUS by the time the case gets there. Surreal.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu Oct 22, 2020 15:10:53

Here we go ... Alyssa Farah won't tell the press pool if Trump tested negative for COVID before tonight's debate.

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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby MoBettle » Thu Oct 22, 2020 15:14:38

CalvinBall wrote:A new lawsuit in PA was filed challenging the 3 days of extra time to count mail in ballots postmarked by election day. Barrett likely will be on SCOTUS by the time the case gets there. Surreal.

Sucks but fwiw based on party registration numbers the late arriving mail in ballots will be more evenly split than the ones that arrived earlier. Not sure them getting this flipped would be such a huge windfall for the GOP.
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Re: It is simple. Make a plan and vote - Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Thu Oct 22, 2020 15:19:38

momadance wrote:Here we go ... Alyssa Farah won't tell the press pool if Trump tested negative for COVID before tonight's debate.


It's been weeks. He has no more virus inside of him. It's been 'reported' that his CT count a week or two ago was below the range to culture virus.

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