Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Bucky » Sun Jul 19, 2020 09:42:22

CalvinBall wrote:
The Savior wrote:New ABC poll is a disaster for trump.

Biden +15% overall and gaining
Trump +4% of white RV (-14% since March)(+16% in 2016)
Trump -20% on COVID response (+2% in March)


The 15 is RV but LV is still 10. Not good if you want to be reelected.


if july hold out in this fashion, it will be the first month where 2020 differs significantly from 2016.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:08:17

This thread of clips from Chris Wallace's interview on Trump is...uhhh..something.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1284838878185246720

wtf is he talking about that the SCOTUS handling of DACA gives him superpowers?
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2020 11:47:32

this is the most accurate thing i have ever read

I think going into politics, I overestimated the importance of the personal ideology of people who worked in campaigns for making decisions — which was part of a broader phenomenon of overestimating the extent to which people were making decisions. In 2012, I would see progressive blogs* publish stories like, “The White House is doing a Climate Week. This must be because they have polling showing that climate is a vulnerability for Republicans.” And once you know the people who are in that office, you realize that actually no; they were just at an awkward office meeting and were like, “Oh man, what are we going to do this week? Well, we could do climate.” There’s very little long-term, strategic planning happening anywhere in the party because no one has an incentive to do it. So, campaigns’ actions, while not random, are more random than I realized.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby thephan » Sun Jul 19, 2020 14:32:41

The hill.com his full of all kinds of crazy today. I don't have the stamina to click on the links. But a lot of Trump off the rail stuff.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby pacino » Sun Jul 19, 2020 17:55:00

I won't read that trash site.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Bucky » Sun Jul 19, 2020 18:14:17

how about this one

http://www.jpmascaro.com

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby NickSixers » Sun Jul 19, 2020 21:22:29

Uncle Milty wrote:This thread of clips from Chris Wallace's interview on Trump is...uhhh..something.

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1284838878185246720

wtf is he talking about that the SCOTUS handling of DACA gives him superpowers?


I also didn't follow the DACA/SCOTUS part. Here's Axios on it:

President Trump and top White House officials are privately considering a controversial strategy to act without legal authority to enact new federal policies — starting with immigration, administration officials tell Axios...Yoo detailed the theory in a National Review article, spotted atop Trump’s desk in the Oval Office, which argues that the Supreme Court's 5-4 DACA ruling last month "makes it easy for presidents to violate the law."

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Sun Jul 19, 2020 21:29:32

Thanks for the link.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Jul 20, 2020 02:10:48

Bucky wrote:how about this one

http://www.jpmascaro.com



Love that site. I've been visiting it regularly for the last decade.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby The Savior » Mon Jul 20, 2020 06:38:40

The story about a federal judge and her family bring attacked is terrifying. Her son is dead and husband critical. Suspect in a FedEx uniform yet to be caught.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Jul 20, 2020 07:15:19

The Savior wrote:The story about a federal judge and her family bring attacked is terrifying. Her son is dead and husband critical. Suspect in a FedEx uniform yet to be caught.

The speculation about motive is running wild
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby thephan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 07:30:50

The video of theperson being snatched up and put in the Dodge SUV in Portland was running according to Ken Cuccinelli.

It is ‘someone who matched the description of an individual who assaulted a federal police officer’. If you look at the guy he’s just dressed head to toe in black, so it could be freaking anyone. Anyway he said what you don’t understand is that this was after a three block foot chase when they grabbed him up and put him in the car. He went on to say after about 10 minutes they determined that it was not the same person they were looking for and released. Again, the description was Just somebody wearing black?

Also during that interview he said that they were five officers, if that’s what they are, beating the big guy with batons are Marshals service not DHS people. when we referred to the memo that says that the people on the street need to be trained, he said he didn’t write that, when told it came from DHS he said there’s a lot of people who work there. And of course it’s wrong.

Portland shit is downright Orwellian
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby CalvinBall » Mon Jul 20, 2020 07:34:22

Wait what

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby traderdave » Mon Jul 20, 2020 08:37:08

thephan wrote:The video of theperson being snatched up and put in the Dodge SUV in Portland was running according to Ken Cuccinelli.

It is ‘someone who matched the description of an individual who assaulted a federal police officer’. If you look at the guy he’s just dressed head to toe in black, so it could be freaking anyone. Anyway he said what you don’t understand is that this was after a three block foot chase when they grabbed him up and put him in the car. He went on to say after about 10 minutes they determined that it was not the same person they were looking for and released. Again, the description was Just somebody wearing black?

Also during that interview he said that they were five officers, if that’s what they are, beating the big guy with batons are Marshals service not DHS people. when we referred to the memo that says that the people on the street need to be trained, he said he didn’t write that, when told it came from DHS he said there’s a lot of people who work there. And of course it’s wrong.

Portland #$!&@ is downright Orwellian


Ken Cuccinelli breaking some news there. The guy has already said that he was running....from unidentified guys in fatigues that he thought were going to kidnap him. I'd run too.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby thephan » Mon Jul 20, 2020 09:52:35

Ken Cuccinelli is garbage. I though his temporary assignment as up at DHS, so I was a little surprised to see him being interviewed. When he spoke he was the same trash he has always been. Falling all over the place over who the "police" were was interesting because if they are CBP, then they are DHS, if they are United States Marshals Service (USMS) then it is a federal law enforcement agency reporting to the U.S. Department of Justice. That tracks a little to Barr inspecting the troops in D.C.

Regardless, it is a mess.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:38:15

Uncle Milty wrote:
The Savior wrote:The story about a federal judge and her family bring attacked is terrifying. Her son is dead and husband critical. Suspect in a FedEx uniform yet to be caught.

The speculation about motive is running wild


Care to share?

Just reading the description of what happened it could be that the judge was being targeted, but it's hardly definitive that this is why it happened.
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby CFP » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:48:05

Looks like Kasich is going to speak at the Democratic National Convention. Headlines are saying 'on behalf of' Biden, but not seeing the word "support" or "endorse" anywhere.

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Gimpy » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:50:08

She was involved in a case with Epstein and Deutsche Bank.

Her husband was also a defense attorney, right? Considering that he was hit multiple times, isn't it possible that he was the target from a disgruntled client or something?

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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:53:11

CFP wrote:Looks like Kasich is going to speak at the Democratic National Convention. Headlines are saying 'on behalf of' Biden, but not seeing the word "support" or "endorse" anywhere.


I mean, if he is speaking at the DNC on "behalf of Biden," does it really need to say "support" or "endorse"?
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Re: Politics, Polls + Polarization = 0 Parscale

Postby Uncle Milty » Mon Jul 20, 2020 10:58:16

Wolfgang622 wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:
The Savior wrote:The story about a federal judge and her family bring attacked is terrifying. Her son is dead and husband critical. Suspect in a FedEx uniform yet to be caught.

The speculation about motive is running wild


Care to share?

Just reading the description of what happened it could be that the judge was being targeted, but it's hardly definitive that this is why it happened.

Most were related to Epstein or Deutsche Bank (or both) followed by the husband as the target and crazy baseless stuff about the son. It's all baseless speculation.
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