Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby thephan » Mon May 11, 2020 10:49:43

The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.”

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby azrider » Mon May 11, 2020 11:04:24

Mason Storm wrote:The anticipation of death is worse than death itself

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby traderdave » Mon May 11, 2020 11:18:36

thephan wrote:The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638


And the Trump Administration has a vested interest in making things sound better so that you vote for them in November.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby The B1G Piece » Mon May 11, 2020 11:23:28

thephan wrote:The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.”

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638

Counterpoint - 23 million people are unemployed, so yeah, it's pretty fucking bad.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby momadance » Mon May 11, 2020 12:45:25

Michigan's Meal Team Six springing into action once again.

https://www.metrotimes.com/news-hits/ar ... in-lansing

Steve Doxsie had the same idea: “Drag that tyrant governor out to the front lawn. Fit her for a noose.”

“Either President Trump sends in the troops or there is going to be a midnight lynching in Lansing soon,” Michael Smith chimed in.

Others suggested she be shot, beaten, or beheaded.

“Plain and simple she needs to eat lead and send a statement to the rest of the democrats that they are next,” James Greena, of Fennville, wrote.

Chris Rozman said, “She needs her ass beat. Most of these politicians need a good ass whooping. Just. Punch there lights out.”

When someone suggested the guillotine, Thomas Michael Lamphere responded, “Good ol’ fashioned bullets work better, but I like the enthusiasm.”

“Wonder how long till she’s hit with a shotgun blast,” Chris Parrish wrote.

Matthew Woodruff had another idea: “Can we please just take up a collection for an assassin to put that woman from Michigan down,” he asked.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby traderdave » Mon May 11, 2020 12:52:02

Looks like at least seven arrest warrants need to be filled out.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby momadance » Mon May 11, 2020 12:55:52

traderdave wrote:Looks like at least seven arrest warrants need to be filled out.


I'm sure if you go through the pages you'll find many more.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby momadance » Mon May 11, 2020 12:56:09

@realDonaldTrump
The great people of Pennsylvania want their freedom now, and they are fully aware of what that entails. The Democrats are moving slowly, all over the USA, for political purposes. They would wait until November 3rd if it were up to them. Don’t play politics. Be safe, move quickly!

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby Napalm » Mon May 11, 2020 12:58:49

momadance wrote:@realDonaldTrump
The great people of Pennsylvania want their freedom now, and they are fully aware of what that entails. The Democrats are moving slowly, all over the USA, for political purposes. They would wait until November 3rd if it were up to them. Don’t play politics. Be safe, move quickly!

Academy Award, or at least a nomination

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby Wolfgang622 » Mon May 11, 2020 13:28:17

I think the Dems are caught in a disastrous cycle now. The social distancing has worked well enough that the most catastrophic death toll numbers will never come to pass. So from the moment the lockdown ends, until the election, the death toll will grow slowly. The longer that period is, the more people will convince themselves not that the lockdown saved lives, but was in fact totally unnecessary.

Its success is its failure.
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby PSUsarge » Mon May 11, 2020 14:44:24

Wolfgang622 wrote:I think the Dems are caught in a disastrous cycle now. The social distancing has worked well enough that the most catastrophic death toll numbers will never come to pass. So from the moment the lockdown ends, until the election, the death toll will grow slowly. The longer that period is, the more people will convince themselves not that the lockdown saved lives, but was in fact totally unnecessary.

Its success is its failure.

Even if this is the prevailing mindset, though, idk who (besides his base) can actually say that Trump has handled this well at all in general. That will be the bigger prevailing theme, IMO.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby azrider » Mon May 11, 2020 14:58:58

but those democrats wanted to imprison you right away and look who got hit the hardest.... i'm afraid people will buy that, specifically middle america. he's got no chance with the popular vote. none whatsoever. the electoral, is still in play.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby CalvinBall » Mon May 11, 2020 15:01:28

What's the next step in the tyrannical takeover after destroying your state economy?

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby swishnicholson » Mon May 11, 2020 15:02:15

The B1G Piece wrote:
thephan wrote:The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.”

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638

Counterpoint - 23 million people are unemployed, so yeah, it's pretty fucking bad.


That's what's especially discouraging at this point. We should all be on the same page. Don't see how anyone can disagree with the statement, "We should try to restore the economy as quickly as is safely possible," but everyone's attacking each other over which word they emphasize. It's like choosing which phrase of the 2nd amendment you want to hear, and pretty much split along the same lines.
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby azrider » Mon May 11, 2020 15:10:01

CalvinBall wrote:What's the next step in the tyrannical takeover after destroying your state economy?


probably word for word what his camp is going to say in the fall.

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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby pacino » Mon May 11, 2020 15:11:52

swishnicholson wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:
thephan wrote:The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.”

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638

Counterpoint - 23 million people are unemployed, so yeah, it's pretty #$!&@ bad.


That's what's especially discouraging at this point. We should all be on the same page. Don't see how anyone can disagree with the statement, "We should try to restore the economy as quickly as is safely possible," but everyone's attacking each other over which word they emphasize. It's like choosing which phrase of the 2nd amendment you want to hear, and pretty much split along the same lines.

this is because we know bad faith arguments when we see them
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby swishnicholson » Mon May 11, 2020 15:12:54

pacino wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:
thephan wrote:The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.”

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638

Counterpoint - 23 million people are unemployed, so yeah, it's pretty #$!&@ bad.


That's what's especially discouraging at this point. We should all be on the same page. Don't see how anyone can disagree with the statement, "We should try to restore the economy as quickly as is safely possible," but everyone's attacking each other over which word they emphasize. It's like choosing which phrase of the 2nd amendment you want to hear, and pretty much split along the same lines.

this is because we know bad faith arguments when we see them


Who is we in this case?
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby pacino » Mon May 11, 2020 15:14:36

swishnicholson wrote:
pacino wrote:
swishnicholson wrote:
The B1G Piece wrote:
thephan wrote:The politicization of the Corona virus is in full swing.

“It’s ludicrous, it’s arbitrary and it’s absolutely unnecessary,” said Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.), whose state has been one of the earliest to lift coronavirus restrictions. “In some cases, there’s no evidence whatsoever that they eliminate the spread of Covid-19. It’s just abusive, dictatorial, tyrannical-type leadership.”


“They promised 2 million dead at the beginning of this,” (MD Rep Andy) Harris fumed to constituents during a recent teletown hall, later adding, “The media has a vested interest in making things sound worse so that you tune in the next day.”

... he lamented that “we're safer from death if we're not born.”


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/1 ... own-243638

Counterpoint - 23 million people are unemployed, so yeah, it's pretty #$!&@ bad.


That's what's especially discouraging at this point. We should all be on the same page. Don't see how anyone can disagree with the statement, "We should try to restore the economy as quickly as is safely possible," but everyone's attacking each other over which word they emphasize. It's like choosing which phrase of the 2nd amendment you want to hear, and pretty much split along the same lines.

this is because we know bad faith arguments when we see them


Who is we in this case?

we the people who see that people are being thrown to the wolves. current people working aren't safe and there's no reason to think adding more workers is going to make safety more likely


PA Republicans are simultaneously saying we can do it all safely but also are upset that there is a way to report businesses that aren't being safe
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon May 11, 2020 15:24:45

This is all setting up for Trump making a major move this summer or fall, like a Turkey level move to consolidate power and crush what's left of real democracy. The guy is going to jail if he doesn't win this fall and there's no way he's going to risk going to jail. I hate to sound paranoid, but it's coming. He's already got his people ready to hit the streets with guns and a willingness to murder (see quotes above) and the rest of us will want to avoid hitting the streets with the virus and murderous rednecks running around.

We really are fucked. The pot is already boiling and we're the frogs. I think it's already too late.
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Re: Politics Thread: Trump Centers His Fauci

Postby 06hawkalum » Mon May 11, 2020 15:29:58

Monkeyboy wrote:This is all setting up for Trump making a major move this summer or fall, like a Turkey level move to consolidate power and crush what's left of real democracy. The guy is going to jail if he doesn't win this fall and there's no way he's going to risk going to jail. I hate to sound paranoid, but it's coming. He's already got his people ready to hit the streets with guns and a willingness to murder (see quotes above) and the rest of us will want to avoid hitting the streets with the virus and murderous rednecks running around.

We really are fucked. The pot is already boiling and we're the frogs. I think it's already too late.


You are being paranoid. That kind of power grab would require changes to our constitution. That's a non-starter with the Dems controlling the House.
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