Politics: Iowa-nt this to be over

by **traderdave** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:14:22

In effect, that is exactly what they are saying. Among their idiotic rantings is the argument that there can't be a quid pro quo because the funds were released and there was never an announcement of an investigation. Just because you failed at something does not mean you didn't try it.

by **TomatoPie** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:19:50

Trent Steele wrote:You’re right that he’s never going to be convicted, but that’s really neither the point nor the purpose of this process. Forcing those R votes to acquit in light of Bolton’s allegations (and keeping this as the narrative as long as possible) is the goal.

And “The Room Where it Happened” is a great #$!&@ name for the book

Uncle Blazer @blakesmustache
Alternate titles for Bolton’s book:
- The Drug Deal
- Tell the Lawyers
- Please Pay Attention to Me
- To Hell With Patriotism, Where’s My Advance?
- Subpoenas Envy
- I Still Say We Bomb Iran

by **Uncle Milty** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:22:03

Bucky wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:I'll be practicing my "God Save the Queen" and headed for Canada if Mozgang Wolfzart is right about Sanders.

why

Primarily because I don't think he beats Trump.

The rest no one here wants to hear.

by **TomatoPie** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:24:23

Bolton.

I hate to be optimistic because Trump truly is the Teflon Don, but Bolton is gonna testify. Several sources say 51+ votes are there. Mittens, finally some spine. I suspect that Lamar Alexander cares about his legacy and is retiring, and my dark horse is Richard Burr, the quiet but perhaps ethical Republican. Susan Collins is an awful person, less than useless. I thought we could count on Murkowski but not sure, she is mouthing a lot of the moronic talking points.

The sleeping senators are getting a dim recognition that a tornado of krap about Trump is gonna come out, including his taxes, and they have to think about what it will mean to have suppressed evidence here.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:24:48

HRC was not going to lose to Trump too so yeah

by **TomatoPie** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:27:06

Uncle Milty wrote:
Bucky wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:I'll be practicing my "God Save the Queen" and headed for Canada if Mozgang Wolfzart is right about Sanders.

why

Primarily because I don't think he beats Trump.

The rest no one here wants to hear.

If Trump survives to run again, there are so many easy paths to beat him - yet Dems cluster around the two worst possible choices - Sanders and Warren. Uncle Joe is seen as the savior but he is a weak candidate. It does boggle my mind that much better candidates - Harris, Booker - never had a shot.

by **TomatoPie** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:34:49

@MiaFarrow
I came to respect Bernie years ago- watching him on Bill Moyers outstanding program. I hope for the America he envisions. But this is also true - if he wins the Dem nomination, we will lose the WH.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:37:03

ah yes, great political strategist, mia farrow

by **TenuredVulture** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:50:02

TomatoPie wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:
Bucky wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:I'll be practicing my "God Save the Queen" and headed for Canada if Mozgang Wolfzart is right about Sanders.

why

Primarily because I don't think he beats Trump.

The rest no one here wants to hear.

If Trump survives to run again, there are so many easy paths to beat him - yet Dems cluster around the two worst possible choices - Sanders and Warren. Uncle Joe is seen as the savior but he is a weak candidate. It does boggle my mind that much better candidates - Harris, Booker - never had a shot.

Warren could possibly finish 4th in Iowa, behind Klobuchar. She's my preferred candidate, but I don't think she's going to get the nomination. Keep in mind, if somehow Warren does get the nomination, it will be the first time ever that my favorite Dem candidate won the nomination.

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 10:54:29

Trump in Wildwood today as penance to Van Drew. Still is pretty befuddling how many people wait in line to see his bumbling stream of consciousness in person.

by **Bucky** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:06:39

cults, how does they work

by **traderdave** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:11:00

CalvinBall wrote:Trump in Wildwood today as penance to Van Drew. Still is pretty befuddling how many people wait in line to see his bumbling stream of consciousness in person.

Morons started camping out yesterday morning for it. In all seriousness, if I had free time today I absolutely would've driven down there just to get a good laugh at the spectacle.

by **momadance** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:19:08

traderdave wrote:
CalvinBall wrote:Trump in Wildwood today as penance to Van Drew. Still is pretty befuddling how many people wait in line to see his bumbling stream of consciousness in person.

Morons started camping out yesterday morning for it. In all seriousness, if I had free time today I absolutely would've driven down there just to get a good laugh at the spectacle.

Over 6000 got in line last night. Still not sure where he's landing Air Force One. We usually get advanced notice when it's here. Wildwood airport runways are too small. Poor Van Drew is going to be disappointed when they fly in Marine One or Pence's C-32 after spouting on TV for weeks how he's flying in the VC-25.

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:32:55

CalvinBall wrote:ah yes, great political strategist, mia farrow

She could learn a thing or two from us, amirite?

by **traderdave** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 11:42:55

Joni Ernst "helping" Trump with his defense after yesterday's session:

"Iowa caucuses are this next Monday evening. And I'm really interested to see how this discussion today informs and influences the Iowa caucus voters, those Democratic caucus goers. Will they be supporting VP Biden at this point?"

She was very proud of herself, delivering the GOP goal of weakening Biden with a smile on her face. It felt like the GOPs "pen" moment.

by **JFLNYC** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:07:14

Do we really think there’s any Dem who gives a shit what Joni Ernst thinks?

by **CalvinBall** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:08:08

she has to go full trump because she is scared

by **da_bad_ass** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:40:30

TomatoPie wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:
Bucky wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:I'll be practicing my "God Save the Queen" and headed for Canada if Mozgang Wolfzart is right about Sanders.

why

Primarily because I don't think he beats Trump.

The rest no one here wants to hear.

If Trump survives to run again, there are so many easy paths to beat him - yet Dems cluster around the two worst possible choices - Sanders and Warren. Uncle Joe is seen as the savior but he is a weak candidate. It does boggle my mind that much better candidates - Harris, Booker - never had a shot.

bernie is the only candidate running other than warren that generates real enthusiasm. i've been a bernie bro since 2016, so i am obviously biased towards bernie but i don't hate or even not like liz warren, but i think her base is mostly white or high income voters but i don't have actual facts to back this up. heres a cool vid of bernie delivering a speech recently, i know it probably scares a lot of the moderate guys in this thread but this is the future of the dem party not mayor pete. AOC is just going to take up the mantle after we get 8 years of bernie soon :-D

https://twitter.com/i/status/1221628368191414272

by **momadance** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 12:41:13

@JakeSherman
HOUSE REPUBLICAN LEADERSHIP used a closed party meeting this morning to concede they are in the midst of a full-blown fundraising crisis, after the @DCCC outraised the @NRCC by $40 million in 2019. Individual Dem candidates are also smoking their Republican opponents.

You just hate to see it.

by **slugsrbad** » Tue Jan 28, 2020 13:13:20

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