What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politics)

Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Sat Nov 16, 2019 13:41:55

jerseyhoya wrote:
momadance wrote:Y'all remember when jerseyhoya posted 6 - 8 weeks ago that Sondland could sink Trump? Well, gather around children.

Just did a search - was less than four weeks ago. Every week feels like a month. It's amazing how fast stuff moves.

I am less sanguine about the GOP in Congress turning on Trump than I was a month ago because it feels like they're getting buried in their own bullshit, but an awful lot of GOP senators are holding their tongues, which is at least a little optimistic.

If Sondland looks at what happened to Stone today and wakes up and decided to tell the full truth it could be really effing interesting.


Sounds like Sondland is fucked now.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... testimony/

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby TomatoPie » Sat Nov 16, 2019 17:39:17

jerseyhoya wrote:If Sondland looks at what happened to Stone today and wakes up and decided to tell the full truth it could be really effing interesting.


Superb point.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Nov 16, 2019 17:42:44

momadance wrote:
Warszawa wrote:
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Warszawa wrote:Why would he even testify at this point


Because he's testifying next week in front of the committee? I dunno. Die in jail or go down with the ship. Seems like an easy choice.


I didn’t know they jailed people for not complying with subpoenas


Roger Stone is going to jail for lying to Congress, which Sondland has already done once so far.


I guess this article kind of sums up what I’m thinking

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/14/1899427/-The-Sondland-Dilemma-Should-The-Committee-Offer-Him-Immunity-For-The-Truth
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby momadance » Sat Nov 16, 2019 18:34:44

Warszawa wrote:
momadance wrote:
Warszawa wrote:
momadance wrote:
Warszawa wrote:Why would he even testify at this point


Because he's testifying next week in front of the committee? I dunno. Die in jail or go down with the ship. Seems like an easy choice.


I didn’t know they jailed people for not complying with subpoenas


Roger Stone is going to jail for lying to Congress, which Sondland has already done once so far.


I guess this article kind of sums up what I’m thinking

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2019/11/14/1899427/-The-Sondland-Dilemma-Should-The-Committee-Offer-Him-Immunity-For-The-Truth


Ah gotcha. I think he just shows up and lays it all out after the deposition from last night.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Nov 16, 2019 21:51:40

Mayor Pete with big lead in latest Iowa polls at 25%. Warren, Biden and Bernie trail at 16, 15 and 15, respectively.
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sat Nov 16, 2019 22:01:43

I hope he can hold off Hillary
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 16, 2019 22:41:20

Louisiana is going to be very close

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 22:47:41

JFLNYC wrote:Mayor Pete with big lead in latest Iowa polls at 25%. Warren, Biden and Bernie trail at 16, 15 and 15, respectively.

And he's been good in NH polls. If these two loser states stick our whole party with Mayor Pete so help me.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 22:50:59

jerseyhoya wrote:Louisiana is going to be very close


Tweets making it look like Edwards is doing well?

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 16, 2019 22:59:55

CalvinBall wrote:
jerseyhoya wrote:Louisiana is going to be very close


Tweets making it look like Edwards is doing well?

I'd rather be him, but it's very close.

Rispone is up but no Orleans early vote yet.

I think it lands inside a point.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:03:46

Early vote maybe higher than I thought in Orleans. Maybe JBE wins by 2% is most likely outcome? Still close.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:16:28

It's really close

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:19:10

Wasserman agrees. JBE seems to be a couple points above most benchmarks he needed to hit.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:26:12

jerseyhoya wrote:Early vote maybe higher than I thought in Orleans. Maybe JBE wins by 2% is most likely outcome? Still close.


Seems like this county has the most outstanding vote.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:30:11

JBE is gonna win. Another poor effort by Donald Trump.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby Uncle Milty » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:33:01

Orleans and East Baton Rouge slow to report.
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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:38:10

JBE takes the lead. 15 percent still left out there and it's mostly Dem stuff.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:39:32

Wasserman called it for JBE.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:39:33

Turnout is up from the first round

Will get slapped in Trump's face, but legitimately with how popular JBE is the only reason this race was inside 5% was Trump weighing in.

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Re: What You See Is What You Gaetz - Trump Is Guilty (Politi

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Nov 16, 2019 23:41:16

jerseyhoya wrote:Turnout is up from the first round

Will get slapped in Trump's face, but legitimately with how popular JBE is the only reason this race was inside 5% was Trump weighing in.


Was under impression that turnout is up in blue counties and fell off a bit it red counties?

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