momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

Brantt wrote:

Grotewold wrote:Brannt, just out of curiosity, have you posted here about the Trump presidency thus far versus what you expected/wanted?

Overall I have been pretty satisfied with Trump. I think he's done a good job stimulating the economy through tax cuts and more specifically deregulation that at least attempts to get back to leveling the playing field in the manufacturing sector. Gorsuch and Kavanaugh were solid picks for the Supreme Court. I give him a ton of credit for taking on China head on when the easy thing to do would be just continue on with business as usual and ride the strong economic wave to re-election. We'll see how that turns out, but I'd do the same if I were him and hope the short term pain leads to a much better deal for the US long-term. Like that he's ready to bring our troops home from the endless wars in the middle east. Like that he's engaged Kim Jong-Un directly in an attempt to denuclearize the peninsula.

The two main big misses are healthcare and immigration. In both cases though, I would say they are a bigger indictment of the Republican party and their complete lack of solutions rather than Trump himself. Trump gave them a golden opportunity to reform both issues and they were completely clueless.

Could do without some of the theatrics, but a lot is warranted given how he is treated by the media.

It's actually amazing what he has accomplished and that he is still standing given who he has gone head to head with (basically by himself) in the last 4 years.

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

Bill McNeal wrote:

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

No, it’s perfectly clear. He abused bankruptcy courts and screwed over tons of small businesses/small business owners to make a lot of money for himself. Don’t act like it was shrewd, it may have technically been legal, but it was immoral as hell.

Bill McNeal wrote:

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

No, it’s perfectly clear. He abused bankruptcy courts and screwed over tons of small businesses/small business owners to make a lot of money for himself. Don’t act like it was shrewd, it may have technically been legal, but it was immoral as hell.

Brantt wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

No, it’s perfectly clear. He abused bankruptcy courts and screwed over tons of small businesses/small business owners to make a lot of money for himself. Don’t act like it was shrewd, it may have technically been legal, but it was immoral as hell.

If you view it as immoral behavior your issue is with the lawmakers in Congress for creating the bankruptcy laws, not the business owners who simply follow the law to maximize their profits.

Grotewold wrote:Wouldn't he have still been better off with successful casinos?

Bucky wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

No, it’s perfectly clear. He abused bankruptcy courts and screwed over tons of small businesses/small business owners to make a lot of money for himself. Don’t act like it was shrewd, it may have technically been legal, but it was immoral as hell.

If you view it as immoral behavior your issue is with the lawmakers in Congress for creating the bankruptcy laws, not the business owners who simply follow the law to maximize their profits.

No, my problem is not only with them. And it's not 'simply following the law'. You are extremely naive or intentionally ignorant if you think that is the case. The term for what he did/does is called "legal opportunism", and society is predicated on people not abusing the proper intent of legal arrangements. He's a schmuck for doing most of the stuff he did.

thephan wrote:He doubled down on his 'disloyalty'.

He's moved on to blaming everyone, especially Obama, for everything. Its Obama's trade war.

And addressing the media as 'fake news media' to the press. Standard.

Called himself the chosen one, which I have to think is not accidental.

Brantt wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

No, it’s perfectly clear. He abused bankruptcy courts and screwed over tons of small businesses/small business owners to make a lot of money for himself. Don’t act like it was shrewd, it may have technically been legal, but it was immoral as hell.

If you view it as immoral behavior your issue is with the lawmakers in Congress for creating the bankruptcy laws, not the business owners who simply follow the law to maximize their profits.

No, my problem is not only with them. And it's not 'simply following the law'. You are extremely naive or intentionally ignorant if you think that is the case. The term for what he did/does is called "legal opportunism", and society is predicated on people not abusing the proper intent of legal arrangements. He's a schmuck for doing most of the stuff he did.

It is 100% simply following the law. He owns a private business and is 100% beholden to make decisions that financially benefit his partners, investors and his family. This happens every single day. Change the laws if you think they are unfair or immoral.

JUburton wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Bucky wrote:

Brantt wrote:

Bill McNeal wrote:

Brantt wrote:

momadance wrote:

Bucky wrote:for a guy who bills himself as the "great negotiator", his way of "taking on" china is absolutely laughable.

This is the guy who bankrupted 3 casinos multiple times.

It's beyond amazing that people don't understand the dynamics of how he used Chapter 11 to make himself a ton of money.

No, it’s perfectly clear. He abused bankruptcy courts and screwed over tons of small businesses/small business owners to make a lot of money for himself. Don’t act like it was shrewd, it may have technically been legal, but it was immoral as hell.

If you view it as immoral behavior your issue is with the lawmakers in Congress for creating the bankruptcy laws, not the business owners who simply follow the law to maximize their profits.

No, my problem is not only with them. And it's not 'simply following the law'. You are extremely naive or intentionally ignorant if you think that is the case. The term for what he did/does is called "legal opportunism", and society is predicated on people not abusing the proper intent of legal arrangements. He's a schmuck for doing most of the stuff he did.

It is 100% simply following the law. He owns a private business and is 100% beholden to make decisions that financially benefit his partners, investors and his family. This happens every single day. Change the laws if you think they are unfair or immoral.

guess you didnt sign this letter

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/19/busi ... tions.html