Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu May 23, 2019 11:16:55

Squire wrote:I don't know. I know people are paranoid because he was down in the polls and then won 2016 but literally don't see how Trump gets re-elected in 2020:

1. He won every swing state he needed in 2016 but by razor thin margins 100-150K
2. I can't imagine ANYONE who didn't vote for him in 2016 but will vote for him in 2020. So his top line number is what it was last election
3. A portion of his support has died out. literally died.
4. There was at least a small segment of the Republican/Indepedent voters who voted for him on the belief that once in the office, he'd act more Presidential. Which he won't get this time.


The plan has to be:

1. Get a half million key votes
2. Hard to say since he is now the crown for the Trump party (see VT's comment)
3. Yes, but what has replaced them in the newly minted voters? I know my son is eager for his first opportunity to vote 'against', but I assume there are plenty who are 'for' created in the trumplands.
4. This is really the other key. Again to VT's point, some have fallen in line, and others will get off the bus. Maybe another 500K here?

So there are approximately 750K voters in key states that need to rise up against a menace. Theoretically that should be available, but the last theory was a bust. Will suburban white women vote against their culture? Will traditional democrat voters come out in force? Will the election be postponed? There are 500 some days of crazy to weather.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby Squire » Thu May 23, 2019 11:19:03

TenuredVulture wrote:
Squire wrote:4. There was at least a small segment of the Republican/Indepedent voters who voted for him on the belief that once in the office, he'd act more Presidential. Which he won't get this time.


But there were a bunch of Republican never Trumpers who probably sat out the 2016 election or voted Gary Johnson who've gotten on board the Trump Train. Trump has solidified what Gingrich started, and this is the Republican Party.


Man....I have yet to meet a single voter in this category. A single one. Maybe some of the politicians like Lindsey Graham fall in this category but I'm pretty sure they actually voted for him in 2016. If anything, the trade war on China and the resulting volatility in the stock market is costing him more establishment Republicans.

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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu May 23, 2019 11:35:55

I don't know Squire. Never Trumpers who are now at least reluctant supporters are unfortunately likely out there. the agenda crowd I would think that will hold their nose and vote. Does Glenn Beck have any sway?
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu May 23, 2019 11:36:26

Like Eric Erickson!

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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby Phred » Thu May 23, 2019 12:43:03

We haven't even gotten to the part of the election cycle where outside influences use social media and the press to drum up false allegations, rumors and fake scandals to influence our vote.

For example, right now, Pete is squeaky clean but I am sure that they are trying to come up with something akin to "her emails".

They tried something with Biden that failed due to general incompetence but the waters are deep.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu May 23, 2019 12:50:26

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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu May 23, 2019 12:51:41

Phred wrote:We haven't even gotten to the part of the election cycle where outside influences use social media and the press to drum up false allegations, rumors and fake scandals to influence our vote.

For example, right now, Pete is squeaky clean but I am sure that they are trying to come up with something akin to "her emails".



Did you miss the wonder twins presser out from of the townhouse? There was Dunkin! And a trash truck!!
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby Phred » Thu May 23, 2019 13:32:45

thephan wrote:
Phred wrote:We haven't even gotten to the part of the election cycle where outside influences use social media and the press to drum up false allegations, rumors and fake scandals to influence our vote.

For example, right now, Pete is squeaky clean but I am sure that they are trying to come up with something akin to "her emails".



Did you miss the wonder twins presser out from of the townhouse? There was Dunkin! And a trash truck!!


I did forget about that. But that is my point, at some point in this process people who are a lot more competent than those boobs are going to start trying similar moves and probably have greater success.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu May 23, 2019 16:02:36

BREAKING / NBC NEWS: The Department of Justice has announced 17 new charges against Julian Assange.

Assange face Espionage charges connected with publishing classified material, @KenDilanianNBC reports.

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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu May 23, 2019 16:35:31

Espionage? Really?
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu May 23, 2019 17:35:37

pacino wrote:Espionage? Really?


Meets the definition and with a standard that included whistleblower Daniel Ellsberg it seems like a slam dunk.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby slugsrbad » Thu May 23, 2019 17:42:51

DoJ is overstepping it’s bounds and getting close to some dangerous implications of the first amendment.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu May 23, 2019 17:51:35

you're WRONG



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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Thu May 23, 2019 18:56:43

slugsrbad wrote:DoJ is overstepping it’s bounds and getting close to some dangerous implications of the first amendment.

A YEP

Completely wrong. Send him to Sweden. This is a terrible precedent.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu May 23, 2019 19:01:39

it's spelt P-R-E-S-I-D-E-N-T

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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu May 23, 2019 19:58:55

Nancy got a nickname. It’s a real weak effort. She’s eating his lunch. He can hardly muster an ‘oh yea, you too.’
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby phatj » Thu May 23, 2019 20:19:47

Bucky wrote:it's spelt P-R-E-S-I-D-E-N-T

mmm... spelt

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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu May 23, 2019 23:12:22

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:DoJ is overstepping it’s bounds and getting close to some dangerous implications of the first amendment.

A YEP

Completely wrong. Send him to Sweden. This is a terrible precedent.


Neither you nor I have any idea what evidence they have on him and they're not about to divulge that in a late afternoon press release. It's extraordinarily rare for the DOJ to file a charge unless they know they can convict.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Thu May 23, 2019 23:17:03

Guys, Trump has advised the intelligence agency to assist Barr in his investigation in who started the investigation into Trump

This is....unfathomable. Democracy and checks and balances truly at risk.
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Re: Biden our Time until 2020 - Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Thu May 23, 2019 23:18:34

May resigning tomorrow

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