Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 13:49:09

thephan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:BREAKING NEWS
In a new indictment, Paul Manafort was charged with 16 New York State felonies. He could now go to prison even if the president pardons him.


I'm not a lawyer, but I imaging we will hear the words "Double Jeopardy". I hope NY is being very careful.


We won’t. First I believe the new indictment is for a different crime. Also he wasnt acquitted of a crime so it probably wouldn’t apply. Also I’m not sure it would apply even if he were commuted since he would have been acquitted of federal crimes and the new trial would be for state crimes.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 13, 2019 14:19:01

The first item is what I was thinking of. He has already been convicted of X, Y, and Z, so hopefully NY is far, far away from those.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 13, 2019 14:58:18

saw a ticker that Trump ordered 737 Max 8 & 9 series grounded
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby heyeaglefn » Wed Mar 13, 2019 14:58:35

thephan wrote:saw a ticker that Trump ordered 737 Max 8 & 9 series grounded

Grounded worldwide now.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Mar 13, 2019 14:59:44

The NY Manafort charges are mortgage fraud, so no double jeopardy.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby 06hawkalum » Wed Mar 13, 2019 15:02:58

heyeaglefn wrote:
thephan wrote:saw a ticker that Trump ordered 737 Max 8 & 9 series grounded

Grounded worldwide now.


Thank God. It's an obvious decision to make, but the right one nevertheless.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Squire » Wed Mar 13, 2019 15:11:39

Manafort's federal crimes included false federal tax returns. By definition NY couldn't charge him with that but certainly could charge him with false NY state tax returns which would be a separate and distinct crime.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Mar 13, 2019 15:27:28

With Manafort there's no shortage of crimes.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby momadance » Wed Mar 13, 2019 15:28:49

06hawkalum wrote:
heyeaglefn wrote:
thephan wrote:saw a ticker that Trump ordered 737 Max 8 & 9 series grounded

Grounded worldwide now.


Thank God. It's an obvious decision to make, but the right one nevertheless.


Glad the shutdown helped MAGA by delaying the MAX 8 software update that would have been released weeks ago.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Squire » Wed Mar 13, 2019 15:34:46

JFLNYC wrote:With Manafort there's no shortage of crimes.


You ain't wrong. He's basically a guy who would side with the Martians invading Earth for a small honorarium.

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 13, 2019 15:36:33

JFLNYC wrote:With Manafort there's no shortage of crimes.



winner!
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Monkeyboy » Wed Mar 13, 2019 16:11:02

Something to keep in mind as this thing plays out in NY with Manafort...

Vance is the DA that just brought the new state charges against Manafort.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/prime-bet ... the-trumps

Vance has a complicated history with the Trumps. The same year he opened his investigation into Manafort, he was also under fire for a donation he took from former Trump lawyer Marc Kasowitz.

That story began in 2012, when Vance met with Kasowitz, who had previously donated $25,000 to his campaigns. Vance, at the time, was in the midst of a two-year long investigation of two of Kasowitz’s clients, Ivanka Trump and Donald Trump Jr., for allegedly defrauding investors in the Trump SoHo project. In keeping with what Vance later said was his standard practice, he returned Kasowitz’s donation.

After meeting with Kasowitz, Vance overruled his own prosectors to clear both Trumps. Within six months, Kasowitz donated an additional $32,000 to Vance, and helped raise more money from other donors.


Nonetheless, the reporting sparked outrage in New York, which intensified later that month after his office came under new scrutiny about the circumstances under which it dropped a 2015 investigation into Harvey Weinstein — also after a meeting with the would-be defendant’s lawyers, who were also campaign donors. New York Governor Andrew Cuomo later ordered a review of how Vance handled his office’s Weinstein investigation, and the FBI is, according to the Daily News, looking into how Vance handled both Weinstein and the Trumps.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby Bucky » Wed Mar 13, 2019 16:25:27

thephan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:With Manafort there's no shortage of crimes.



winner!


you're wrong it's an otherwise blameless life

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Mar 13, 2019 16:33:01

Bucky wrote:
thephan wrote:
JFLNYC wrote:With Manafort there's no shortage of crimes.



winner!


you're wrong it's an otherwise blameless life

BABAY I WANT SOMMETTTHING

TO GET ME THROUGH THIS

OTHERWISE BLAMELESS LIFE


It should be

I WANT SOMETHING ELSE

TO GET ME THROUGH THIS

OTHERWISE BLAMELESS LIFE
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby mickbayne » Wed Mar 13, 2019 17:48:35

It's the bdawk puppies' 6th bday today. Can't believe it's been that long.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby mickbayne » Wed Mar 13, 2019 17:50:34

mickbayne wrote:It's the bdawk puppies' 6th bday today. Can't believe it's been that long.

Oops wrong thread!
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Mar 13, 2019 17:54:30

Best politics thread post in a while tho

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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby mickbayne » Wed Mar 13, 2019 18:02:35

jerseyhoya wrote:Best politics thread post in a while tho

Lololol I usually avoid this thread like you and slowhand avoid wrasslin' but am on mobile and somehow fucked that up
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby thephan » Wed Mar 13, 2019 18:29:32

mickbayne wrote:
mickbayne wrote:It's the bdawk puppies' 6th bday today. Can't believe it's been that long.

Oops wrong thread!


That is friggin awesome! I was so totally confused. FWIW, I am not sure you can have a 6 year old puppy.
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Re: Where the hell is the new POLITICS thread?

Postby joboggi » Wed Mar 13, 2019 19:13:52

I am going to sleep well tonight, I have friends in high places.

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