Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:20:35

This shutdown is absurd. Fuck Trump and fuck Mitch McConnell
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:50:23

pacino wrote:This shutdown is absurd. Fuck Trump and fuck Mitch McConnell


Poor Paul Ryan retires and can’t get a fuck from PAC
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby swishnicholson » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:03:21

Democrats message seems misguided, as they focus on "we don't need a wall," which is always gong to be only partially true, since no one (almost) is campaigning to tear down the barriers already in place. It would seem, "here's places where this money is more direly needed" would work better, and those are easy to come up with.

Think they're winning the pr battle now, but will likely be a shift to "just give him the wall and get back to work" as time goes on.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:56:44

The Russian lawyer in the Trump Jr Tower meeting was just charged in a separate case
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:00:18

Asked Tuesday about Trump’s claim of support for the wall from his predecessors, Vice President Mike Pence told NBC’s “Today” show, “I know the president has said that was his impression from previous presidents.”

Pence added: “I’ve seen clips of previous presidents talking about the importance of border security and the importance of addressing illegal immigration.”


These assholes ability to make shit up as they go really is truly amazing. BTW, Mike, "clips" of previous presidents talking about border security and illegal immigration is not the same as supporting Trump's wall (unless the clips actually are, you know, those presidents supporting Trump's wall). Also Part II, "border security" is not the same as "build a wall".

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:09:15

Trump’s southern border apocalypse ad ran Tuesday morning on CNN as the cable news network Trump has called The Enemy of the People discussed Trump’s credibility crisis in his primetime address:

Drugs, terrorists, violent criminals, and child traffickers trying to enter our country though our southern border. But Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi care more about the radical left than keeping us safe. The consequences? Drug deaths, violent murder, gang violence. We must not allow it! Every country defends their borders. President Trump wants to defend ours. The Democrats must stop playing politics and support real border security

“I’m Donald Trump and I approved this message,” Trump said, as the ad wrapped while the words: “Paid for by Donald J. Trump for President. Approved by Donald Trump” played on screen.


Tonight should be fun. I'm debating whether or not to even watch because I think it is only going to piss me off.

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby 06hawkalum » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:13:19

traderdave wrote:Trump’s southern border apocalypse ad ran Tuesday morning on CNN as the cable news network Trump has called The Enemy of the People discussed Trump’s credibility crisis in his primetime address:

Drugs, terrorists, violent criminals, and child traffickers trying to enter our country though our southern border. But Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi care more about the radical left than keeping us safe. The consequences? Drug deaths, violent murder, gang violence. We must not allow it! Every country defends their borders. President Trump wants to defend ours. The Democrats must stop playing politics and support real border security

“I’m Donald Trump and I approved this message,” Trump said, as the ad wrapped while the words: “Paid for by Donald J. Trump for President. Approved by Donald Trump” played on screen.


Tonight should be fun. I'm debating whether or not to even watch because I think it is only going to piss me off.


I don't know why any rational person spends one second of their precious, limited time on Earth willingly listening to that buffoon. The second I hear his voice or see his orange mug, I change the channel.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby pacino » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:25:06

I need to hear what the good Lord is using his messenger for
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby JUburton » Tue Jan 08, 2019 12:44:33

I'll read about it the next day. Why tune in just because this asshole says I should

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Grotewold » Tue Jan 08, 2019 14:37:46

the Give People Money book on a universal basic income is very expansive and interesting

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 14:40:03

npr.org wrote:Just two months ago, Missouri voters approved a constitutional amendment to change how the state draws legislative boundaries. The state's lawmakers, who return to session this week, aren't having it and may seek to nix or rewrite the anti-gerrymandering law.

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In approving a measure known as Amendment 1 with more than 60 percent of the vote, Missouri voters chose to give much of the power to draw state House and Senate districts over to a demographer who must craft a map that emphasizes partisan fairness and competitiveness.

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But fans of the measure barely had a chance to exhale before the GOP majority began to talk about repealing it. The Republican leaders of the House and Senate, as well as Gov. Mike Parson, expressed support for repealing or altering the new redistricting system.

"I think it's a major concern for this majority, in how that is going to impact the future," said Senate President Pro Tem-elect Dave Schatz last year. "And I do think those issues are going to have to be addressed there."


The GOP is not alone

A number of prominent African-American Democrats have also come out against it.

Some, including Democratic Congressman Lacy Clay of St. Louis, believe that the only way to create more competitive legislative maps will be to spread out voters from heavily African-American districts into more majority white districts.


screw the voters
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 15:10:27

I am hoping that The Flash is on tonight.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby traderdave » Tue Jan 08, 2019 15:25:54

BTW, if the wall on our southern border is really a national security issue and about stopping terrorists and criminals, why shouldn't we also build a wall on our northern border? Can't terrorists and criminals also enter the US illegally from Canada?

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby stevemc » Tue Jan 08, 2019 16:04:02

Not to mention one of the largest sufferers of this shutdown is the Department of Homeland Security which in turn can't watch for terrorists as closely

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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 16:12:35

Steel slats Steve, steel slats. That will help them see, and not get bonked on the head with the drugs catapulted over (happens all the time apparently). Also, don't you worry about that pay, the CBP brain trust* was at the NOT PRESS CONFERENCE last week talking about how they love walls better the pay chex.

*Anyone know if the CBP union type folks are actual Federal employees or Jimmy Hoffa union types?
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 16:24:31

Hi, I'm Paul Manifort, and I am a complete idiot.

His equally inept legal team screwed up and filed documents that clearly record that he met with a Russian agent in Madrid to shared polling data. That is what they submitted to the court themselves! Who knows if Team Mueller knew about this before it was filed into the record.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 17:05:31

CalvinBall wrote:Remember when diplomats in Cuba were to believed to have been victim of some sort of sonic sound attack? Two years later, turns out it was crickets



worst cover story ever.

Maybe I'm remembering things wrong, but didn't they find neurological changes in some of these people?
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby momadance » Tue Jan 08, 2019 17:24:08

thephan wrote:Hi, I'm Paul Manifort, and I am a complete idiot.

His equally inept legal team screwed up and filed documents that clearly record that he met with a Russian agent in Madrid to shared polling data. That is what they submitted to the court themselves! Who knows if Team Mueller knew about this before it was filed into the record.


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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby thephan » Tue Jan 08, 2019 17:45:15

Corey A. Stewart, the Republican firebrand whose fights to crack down on illegal immigration and preserve Confederate monuments reflected the nation’s increasingly polarized political landscape, is calling it quits after 15 years on the Prince William Board of County Supervisors.

In an interview, Stewart, 50, said he will not seek a fourth term as board chairman this year and is leaving politics “for the foreseeable future” to focus on his international trade law practice and the business ambitions of his wife, Maria.


I will be drinking a toast tonight to the good of the commonwealth!

Citing his 16-point loss to Sen. Tim Kaine (D) in November midterm elections in which Virginia Republicans also lost three U.S. House seats, Stewart said his departure from state politics will last “until and unless the Commonwealth is ready for my views on things, and that’s not right now, clearly.”


We might even be able to get him to move out of state since this is never going to happen.

FWIW, Trumps man in Virginia for most of the campaign.
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Re: Politics: Promises Made, Hush Money Paid

Postby Monkeyboy » Tue Jan 08, 2019 17:52:10

He's no doubt going off to do evil in some other part of life, probably still for Trump or his ilk.
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