GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby JUburton » Tue Sep 04, 2018 12:39:44

pacino wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:once and future Senator Jon Kyl is filling the void left by Sen. McCain's death

this is literally the guy who was in charge of making sure Kavanaugh was confirmed
who couldn't do that job? all youd have to do is not murder republican senators in democratic governors' states.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Tue Sep 04, 2018 13:28:39

As a follow-up to the WP article posted above, here is a link to the transcript of a phone call between Woodward and Trump about the book. You truly cannot make this shit up:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... fcd4981b5b

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby swishnicholson » Tue Sep 04, 2018 13:51:57

Bucky wrote:he's wrong. all sloths.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Sep 04, 2018 16:53:44

pacino wrote:Kavanaugh wrote in his opening remarks that he's a "pro-law" judge

what a fraud

Finally, a judge who's willing to simply focus on the laws!

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Trent Steele » Tue Sep 04, 2018 21:08:55

The thing I find most hilarious and awesome about the WH response to the Woodward books is that they don't even realize they are being set up here. Woodward has done this before. He has recordings. They may be someone else recounting what Mattis or Kelly said, but he has them. And when you challenge him, he will give them to the Post. Just like his brilliant move today giving the recording the Trump conversation

And, in many ways, that is what I find most offensive. Not that they are evil or racist or misogynistic or assholes (which they all are, and that bothers me). But that they FUCKING SUCK AT IT. The whole lot of them ARE FUCKING MORONS. They aren't remotely equipped to play at this level. Sigh.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Tue Sep 04, 2018 21:55:42

well, we all know this was fabricated. he was told and they chose not to participate so they could claim fake news. no other reason to finally contact him at this point other than to try to set the stage. i guess he had to sell out graham because he's the only one who wasn't in on the ruse. in a way this call plays in to their scheme.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 04, 2018 22:50:37

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Tue Sep 04, 2018 23:15:43

Pressley winning is pretty frustrating as a Cambridge resident. there are still so many Crowleys and Cuomos out there. what's the point of unseating one of the few consistently progressive, anti-war, social justice Congressmen, particularly one who actually had some seniority and committee action in the House?

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby CalvinBall » Tue Sep 04, 2018 23:20:47

Agree. It is all about new, shiny things. Nothing much matters.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Tue Sep 04, 2018 23:31:36

Crowleys and Capuanos have gotten complacent because they've never been challenged. It's not enough anymore to just vote the right way. We need real progressive leaders in Congress who can do more: organizing rallies, sparking new movements, motivating young people, getting people involved and registered to vote, etc.

I believe the Democratic party to going in the right direction. It needed to be done.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Dude » Tue Sep 04, 2018 23:36:12

Bucky wrote:well, we all know this was fabricated. he was told and they chose not to participate so they could claim fake news. no other reason to finally contact him at this point other than to try to set the stage. i guess he had to sell out graham because he's the only one who wasn't in on the ruse. in a way this call plays in to their scheme.


Not sure why graham wouldn’t be in on this ruse if there was one, but I don’t know why they would admit that KAC knew as well. Her admission only further showed how effed up the whole line of communication was. I agree he chose not to participate but he’s admitting people told him.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Tue Sep 04, 2018 23:39:38

Bucky wrote:well, we all know this was fabricated. he was told and they chose not to participate so they could claim fake news. no other reason to finally contact him at this point other than to try to set the stage. i guess he had to sell out graham because he's the only one who wasn't in on the ruse. in a way this call plays in to their scheme.


We all know the Deep State Tonight with Lestor Holt photoshopped that entire phone call.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 05, 2018 06:28:48

Houshphandzadeh wrote:Pressley winning is pretty frustrating as a Cambridge resident. there are still so many Crowleys and Cuomos out there. what's the point of unseating one of the few consistently progressive, anti-war, social justice Congressmen, particularly one who actually had some seniority and committee action in the House?

my guess is since she lives there she wanted to be elected to represent there. must be pretty cool to have two good options to vote for.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 05, 2018 06:38:24

CalvinBall wrote:Agree. It is all about new, shiny things. Nothing much matters.

i disagree, i saw her on an appearance on tv and she did not appear very shiny.

edit: never mind, it does appear her daughter has a shiny forehead. looks like you're right, calvinballs!

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 05, 2018 06:42:58

the governor/lt gov ticket for the Dems in Massachusetts is not very shiny

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Wed Sep 05, 2018 07:39:18

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 05, 2018 07:42:29

i didn't realize Rick Scott was allowed to hold office in Massachusetts
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Wed Sep 05, 2018 08:52:33

pacino wrote:i didn't realize Rick Scott was allowed to hold office in Massachusetts


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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Wed Sep 05, 2018 09:49:50

Doll Is Mine wrote:Crowleys and Capuanos have gotten complacent because they've never been challenged. It's not enough anymore to just vote the right way. We need real progressive leaders in Congress who can do more: organizing rallies, sparking new movements, motivating young people, getting people involved and registered to vote, etc.

I believe the Democratic party to going in the right direction. It needed to be done.


I agree. A huge problem with the Dems is that their leadership is really too old. Look at some of the most prominent potential Dem candidates for President--they're ancient. Political talent needs to be cultivated and developed, and for lots of reasons, the Dems haven't been doing this enough.

The people who championed Hillary Clinton's candidacy (and basically chased out any viable alternative) don't realize how long ago 1992 really was. And they also don't seem to understand that even in 1992, the Clintons and their supporters were looking back to their own boomer youth, and even though the song was "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow" that song itself was already a relic of a bygone age.

I've complained before about the how the Occupy movement was a waste--there was a ton of energy, but since it had no direction, strategy, or even vague demands it had no impact whatsoever on actual politics. (It's relevant to note that occupy was 10 years ago!) This new crop of people I think have learned important lessons from those defeats--the opposite lesson the baby boomers in the Democratic Party took away from the political defeats of the 80s by the way--and provide great optimism.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Wed Sep 05, 2018 10:13:08

thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.

Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.

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