GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu Aug 30, 2018 19:30:45

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“I have determined that for 2019, both across‑the‑board pay increases and locality pay increases will be set at zero,” he wrote. “These alternative pay plan decisions will not materially affect our ability to attract and retain a well‑qualified Federal workforce,” Trump added.


That is a bold faced lie. Why would someone select public service if they cannot afford basic necessities? In certain locations being a fed will be a losing position.

I guess there is more than one way to skin a deep state.


I work in R&D for the FAA. There will be a mass exodus.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Thu Aug 30, 2018 19:42:50

I think that’s the point (and to pay for tax reform)
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Thu Aug 30, 2018 20:14:39

The Savior wrote:I think that’s the point (and to pay for tax reform)


The crazy thing is that media has not picked on the fact that, if implemented, this plan represents a 15% to 39.28% benefit cut to every federal employee depending on their location. 15% if you live in bumfuck Mississippi, 39.28% if you live in San Francisco.

The media is still portraying as a garden variety Obama-era pay freeze.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Aug 30, 2018 20:20:15

can someone explain the difference so I can respond knowledgeably to the deplorables?

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby 06hawkalum » Thu Aug 30, 2018 20:24:05

Bucky wrote:can someone explain the difference so I can respond knowledgeably to the deplorables?


Every federal employee receives a very modest base salary and then an additional 15% to 39% to take into account COL. This additional money is not a pay raise and has always been a part of a federal employee's salary. A true "pay freeze" would lead to federal employees earning the same gross salary in 2019 that they did in 2018.

If this plan is implemented their pay in 2019 will be 15%-39% less than it was in 2018.

Do you think they will grasp this concept?
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Thu Aug 30, 2018 20:26:09

The stupidity is that contractor scum like me will be in even higher demand.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Thu Aug 30, 2018 20:33:00

wow thanks. I wonder if this is a setup for "this is what the democrats will do if they control congress"

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Thu Aug 30, 2018 22:50:45

There's been no mention of eliminating the locality pay fwiw

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby phatj » Thu Aug 30, 2018 22:53:23

slugsrbad wrote:I just got a mailer for Bernie O'Neill, thankfully he is actually off the ballot so it's irrelevant. I wonder how far in advance local campaigns put these fliers together since he dropped out in the race against our local boart member (didn't know Moz/Wolfgang was an adjunct professor).

Pretty sure Moz is not an adjunct professor. Was that in the mailer?
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Aug 30, 2018 22:54:39

momadance wrote:There's been no mention of eliminating the locality pay fwiw


That's my understanding from the WAPO article--locality pay won't increase. Apparently, people who work in high COL areas tend to get bigger COLAs than people who work in low COL areas. So it does still screw over Fed workers, especially those in high COL areas. But not a 25% pay cut.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 01:00:38

phatj wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:I just got a mailer for Bernie O'Neill, thankfully he is actually off the ballot so it's irrelevant. I wonder how far in advance local campaigns put these fliers together since he dropped out in the race against our local boart member (didn't know Moz/Wolfgang was an adjunct professor).

Pretty sure Moz is not an adjunct professor. Was that in the mailer?


An contraire, I am teaching not one but two classes this semester, one at Rowan University and the other at The College of New Jersey.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 01:10:24

slugsrbad wrote:I just got a mailer for Bernie O'Neill, thankfully he is actually off the ballot so it's irrelevant. I wonder how far in advance local campaigns put these fliers together since he dropped out in the race against our local boart member (didn't know Moz/Wolfgang was an adjunct professor).


That mailer is not “campaign lit,” it is taxpayer-paid-for propaganda (I would actually be very much in favor of elections that were EXCLUSIVELY publicly funded, but as long as this is the system we live in I am going to bitch when my one time opponent gets to use the bully pulpit of his office and I don’t!).

Since it is a representative to constitutent newsletter rather than a campaign piece, think of it as propaganda. He has a bit in there about him resigning and saying good bye. He also has a whole back page about the water issue, and how oh ho ho he’s been working for a year imploring Governor Wolf to do something about it.

That’s great except for one thing: the problem surfaced in 2016 which by my math is two years ago.

This is a long story but suffice it to say that his or at least his office’s shoulder shrug at this issue was THE reason a guy like me - who, ahem, was the chair of the local environmental advisory council in 2016 - decided it was time to run against him.

In any event that piece helps the successor he is trying to coronate, his office manager.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Wolfgang622 » Fri Aug 31, 2018 01:19:50

Trent Steele wrote:
Ps...I was drunk last night and donated $500 to Beto. No regrets.


May I buy you a drink?
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby joboggi » Fri Aug 31, 2018 06:20:20

Unusual

Chuck Todd - stay tuned for a Mueller BOMBSHELL today.

We will see if Chuck has the 411

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Aug 31, 2018 07:46:13

joboggi wrote:Unusual

Chuck Todd - stay tuned for a Mueller BOMBSHELL today.

We will see if Chuck has the 411



he's just speculating like many others that since it's the justice departments policy to not make indictments 60 days before an election (which Comey decided to break by saying HRC was under investigation with the Weiner emails) that something may be released or some indicted before this weekend
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Fri Aug 31, 2018 08:08:53

tuck chod

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Aug 31, 2018 08:35:16

Trump: "They want to raid medicare to pay for socialism"

LOL
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Fri Aug 31, 2018 08:37:03

raiding medicare to pay for medicare for all

he caught us
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Fri Aug 31, 2018 08:37:49

raiding socialism to pay for socialism!!

stupid libturds
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Savior » Fri Aug 31, 2018 08:39:36

The guy is a moron. He’s providing cover to the truly dangerous republicans.

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