GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby traderdave » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:53:50

Marco Rubio is a complete scumbag but I give him a lot of credit for putting up with that bullshit from Jones.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Wed Sep 05, 2018 12:59:35

tbf that's among the nicest things ever said about Rubio

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bill McNeal » Wed Sep 05, 2018 13:47:41

Isn't it good/important to have age diversity as well? If leadership/policy makers are all from a certain generation wouldn't they have an innate bias to protect things important to people from their generation as opposed to others? I'm not saying it's across the board and just because you are over x age you can't be effective, but at the same time, having diversity in your age groups allow new/different ideas perspectives to be shared at higher levels of the organization.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Trent Steele » Wed Sep 05, 2018 13:48:42

I really just hope that the D's don't read too much into the results of primaries that are in like +70 D districts where there isn't even a general election. It's the D equivalent of a primary in rural Alabama. There are lessons to be learned from it about voter enthusiasm and changing party demographics, but it is not generally applicable to determining the right play in national elections.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby slugsrbad » Wed Sep 05, 2018 13:58:29

Relevant twitter thread from Sen. Brian Schatz (D-HI)

We are now around two months from the most important midterm elections possibly ever. I want to offer some incomplete thoughts on what we might want to focus on.

First, our candidates are great and they should be trusted. And consultants and strategists should not turn every candidate into a cookie cutter democrat. They have amazing stories, personalities, and personal characteristics. Let them shine.

Second, donors large and small need to spread money around, not just with the famous candidates. R’s invest at all levels, even obscure ones, and drag them across the finish line. Dems fall in love, R’s fall in line, as they say. We gotta cut that out. Every seat matters.

Third, we gotta “run into the fire” as it relates to the supposedly tough issues. People want moral clarity. That doesn’t mean that Conor Lambs district is the same as Harley Roudas but it does mean that looking fearful and sounding generic is rarely the path to victory.

Fourth, we have to, for the next 65 days, just not fight with each other if it can be avoided. Primaries are over, and everyone behaved pretty great, so let’s just be one team and we can have robust internal debates after the election. As Magic Johnson says “it’s winning time.”

Fifth, whatever you are currently doing for the cause, pretty soon, it’s time to knock on doors and make phone calls. We do not need a movement full of pundits and strategists - we need every single body on the street, including pundits and strategists.

Sixth, we gotta welcome Non-Democrats into the coalition - not to determine the future of our Party, but to stand with us. There are principled conservative voters who are struggling with what to do this cycle, and we should welcome them into an alliance. Progressive/welcoming.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Sep 05, 2018 14:16:12

Bill McNeal wrote:Isn't it good/important to have age diversity as well? If leadership/policy makers are all from a certain generation wouldn't they have an innate bias to protect things important to people from their generation as opposed to others? I'm not saying it's across the board and just because you are over x age you can't be effective, but at the same time, having diversity in your age groups allow new/different ideas perspectives to be shared at higher levels of the organization.


It is, but that's not the point TV was making.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Grotewold » Wed Sep 05, 2018 14:17:53

schatz wrote:looking fearful and sounding generic is rarely the path to victory.


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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Doll Is Mine » Wed Sep 05, 2018 14:18:08

Maxine Waters is almost 90. No young buck or doe is beating her.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby NickSixers » Wed Sep 05, 2018 15:45:33

NYT has published an Op-Ed written by "a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure"

I imagine the "Deep State" tweets will begin soon.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Wed Sep 05, 2018 15:48:59

“I think it’s embarrassing for the country to allow protesters,” the president said in an interview with the Daily Caller following demonstrations against Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh.


Context is a little important, but the underlying though is problematic.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby jerseyhoya » Wed Sep 05, 2018 15:51:40

NickSixers wrote:NYT has published an Op-Ed written "a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure"

I imagine the "Deep State" tweets will begin soon.

Pretty fucking wild

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Slowhand » Wed Sep 05, 2018 15:51:59

The Crimson Cyclone wrote:Alex JONES calls RUBIO a "frat boy" and touches Rubio on the shoulder. Rubio tells Jones not to touch him and that he won't be arrested because I'll "take care of you myself."

Video
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/ ... 11616?s=21


Great job by those reporters fueling Jones’ delusions by interviewing him as if he is worth giving the time of day.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Wed Sep 05, 2018 16:04:57

jerseyhoya wrote:
NickSixers wrote:NYT has published an Op-Ed written "a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure"

I imagine the "Deep State" tweets will begin soon.

Pretty fucking wild


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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Phred » Wed Sep 05, 2018 16:05:28

NickSixers wrote:NYT has published an Op-Ed written "a senior official in the Trump administration whose identity is known to us and whose job would be jeopardized by its disclosure"

I imagine the "Deep State" tweets will begin soon.


Given the instability many witnessed, there were early whispers within the cabinet of invoking the 25th Amendment, which would start a complex process for removing the president. But no one wanted to precipitate a constitutional crisis. So we will do what we can to steer the administration in the right direction until — one way or another — it’s over.


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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Wed Sep 05, 2018 16:15:02

Absolutely incredible. There is a Deep State and irs Trump’s own people. If I saw this on Homeland I wouldn’t believe it.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Squire » Wed Sep 05, 2018 16:24:32

That is amazing. And likely to push Trump over the edge.

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby momadance » Wed Sep 05, 2018 16:53:54

“He’s Comey’s best friend,” Trump said of Mueller, who’s investigating possible collusion between his campaign and the Russian government. “And I could give you 100 pictures of him and Comey hugging and kissing each other. You know, he’s Comey’s best friend.”


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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Wed Sep 05, 2018 17:06:49

It's just taking that ridiculous storyline to the next level. And then it's putting on top something that dog whistles to a certain group of low IQ individuals to fill up their little hate cups.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby jamiethekiller » Wed Sep 05, 2018 17:07:13

love how this jamoke says Trump isn't one of them, but GOP policys have made Trump the posterboy for them. this guy is such full of shit.

we hate this guy but he does everything we want him to do! MORE MILITARY AND MORE MONEY TAKEN AWAY FROM THE PLEBES

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Squire » Wed Sep 05, 2018 17:24:16

In the universe of possibilities I wonder what the percentage likelihood is of the each of the following:

1. Trump lasts the entire term, runs again in 2020 and wins - 0%
2. Trump lasts the entire term, runs again in 2020 and loses - 65%
3. Trump lasts the entire term, decides NOT to run in 2020 - 25%
4. Trump is removed under the 25th amendment prior to the end of his first term - 2%
5. The Democrats win the House and the Senate and Trump is impeached/removed in this congressional term - 7%
6. The Democrats win the House but not the Senate but Trump is impeached/removed in this congressional term - 1%

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