GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Sun Aug 26, 2018 12:59:49

TenuredVulture wrote:Anyone (but especially any Democrat) who really believes that McCain's political legacy is either a positive one, or reflects a time of people who put country ahead of party has succumbed to our media's right wing bias. McCain was a corrupt warmongering right winger who among other things unleashed Sarah Palin on the American political system. The fact that many in his own party didn't like him does not make him some bi-partisan moderate. Just ask Ted Cruz.


Only me, but no, I pretty much disagreed with almost everything he did, and especially recognize h was a warmonger. His legacy to me will be as someone who didn't cowtail to the fuhrer. And that Palin move still boggles me to this day. Who actually thought this was a good thing? Was it a perot-like move to make sure he didn't win?

The one thing I've never heard anything about is the 'corrupt' part. What is the root of that???

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Aug 26, 2018 13:05:09

The Keating Five.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Houshphandzadeh » Sun Aug 26, 2018 13:14:38

hard to get more corrupt than the recent tax bill

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Sun Aug 26, 2018 13:25:20

JFLNYC wrote:The Keating Five.


wasn't that in Good Will Hunting

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby WheelsFellOff » Sun Aug 26, 2018 13:37:45

Bucky wrote:His legacy to me will be as someone who didn't cowtail to the fuhrer.

Please tell me cowtail was an autocorrect or text-to-speech fail, you meant kowtow right?
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Sun Aug 26, 2018 13:43:04

umm, yeah, of course it was, autocorrect, that's the ticket!!

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Sun Aug 26, 2018 17:07:01

Trump's Instagram post about McCain features a photo of Trump. Only Trump. Asshat.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Bucky » Sun Aug 26, 2018 20:42:43

TenuredVulture wrote:Anyone (but especially any Democrat) who really believes that McCain's political legacy is either a positive one, or reflects a time of people who put country ahead of party has succumbed to our media's right wing bias. McCain was a corrupt warmongering right winger who among other things unleashed Sarah Palin on the American political system. The fact that many in his own party didn't like him does not make him some bi-partisan moderate. Just ask Ted Cruz.



https://theintercept.com/2017/07/27/joh ... 1#comments

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby phatj » Sun Aug 26, 2018 21:35:25

Bucky wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:Anyone (but especially any Democrat) who really believes that McCain's political legacy is either a positive one, or reflects a time of people who put country ahead of party has succumbed to our media's right wing bias. McCain was a corrupt warmongering right winger who among other things unleashed Sarah Palin on the American political system. The fact that many in his own party didn't like him does not make him some bi-partisan moderate. Just ask Ted Cruz.



https://theintercept.com/2017/07/27/joh ... 1#comments

Also this: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2018/08/mccain

A lot of the same stuff but a bunch more and even more scathing.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby joboggi » Sun Aug 26, 2018 22:36:11

Note:feel free to listen to all this discussion, most of it honors John McCain.

At the 14+ minute mark ( essentially at the end)


Christie:To Trump

There is nothing that you can do to shorten the investigation, you can only lenghthen it, by talking. Just stop talking. Just stop talking.


https://youtu.be/_MJtwS4ade8

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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Monkeyboy » Mon Aug 27, 2018 00:36:44

TenuredVulture wrote:Anyone (but especially any Democrat) who really believes that McCain's political legacy is either a positive one, or reflects a time of people who put country ahead of party has succumbed to our media's right wing bias. McCain was a corrupt warmongering right winger who among other things unleashed Sarah Palin on the American political system. The fact that many in his own party didn't like him does not make him some bi-partisan moderate. Just ask Ted Cruz.



Thank you. JFC. He was part of the problem. The fact that he finally realized what he had done and did one or two good things at the end doesn't change anything. The fact that he's being lauded as a positive voice shows how far the current GOP has fallen.

And let's also stop with the war hero crap. The guy crashed multiple planes, at least one while fucking around. He would have been thrown out of the navy if not for his dad.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 06:01:25

Press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders, chief of staff John Kelly and other White House aides advocated for a detailed official statement that referred to McCain as a "hero" and gave him accolades for his military service, the Post reported. Aides wrote the statement and Sanders edited it over the weekend.

Trump declined
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Aug 27, 2018 08:04:12

This is America:
Finally came the comment from Gayle Quinnell, 75, of Shakopee, Minn., wearing the red shirt, who called Obama an Arab.

After the rally, a CNN reporter tried to explain to Quinnell that Obama’s father was a Muslim but that the candidate had always been a Christian.

“Yeah, but he’s still got Muslim in him,” she said.

Quinnell was parodied on “Saturday Night Live” a few days later in a skit that featured a crazed McCain-Palin supporter wandering through the “Weekend Update” set and proclaiming that Obama was “50 percent Egyptian. He’s gonna change the White House into a pyramid.” Quinnell said later that she found it funny.

Quinnell’s daughter told reporters that her mother did not have access to the Internet and had read that Obama was a Muslim during a visit to the library. At the time, Quinnell worked supervising children with mental disabilities during school bus rides.

When McCain responded to Quinnell, polls showed that about 12 percent of Americans thought that Obama was a Muslim. By late 2015, as Trump campaigned for the presidency, the number had surged to about 30 percent of the population, according to a CNN/ORC poll. A stunning 45 percent of Republicans and 54 percent of Trump supporters said Obama was a Muslim.

In the years that followed, Palin would become a Fox News and reality TV personality. Trump would first become a leading champion of the “birther” conspiracy, which played on suspicions about Obama to suggest incorrectly that he was not born in the United States. Eventually, Trump would slam Muslims, Latinos and immigrants as he made his way to the Oval Office.

Quinnell is 85 now and still in Minnesota. On a Sunday morning she picked up the phone at her house. Asked what had made her want to attend the rally 10 years ago, she said, “I like Palin.”

She then announced that it was too early in the morning to talk. She was tired. She hung up.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 08:46:48

Melania shows that she and her team are far classier with her statement on McCain.

Meanwhile Sununu is blaming the press for creating a division with the citizens by reporting DJT not putting out a more respectful statement. He was going after the WaPo reporting by saying that this paper lacks credibility, then he dug in and went after CNN which is the station he was on, casting it as lacking credibility. He was on the station to make his statement respecting McCain, and did not appreciate bringing Trump reporting into the mix.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Mon Aug 27, 2018 08:49:14

just when you don't think Trump could be any more douchier, all flags in the Capitol are flying half mast except the White House
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 08:58:43

That is amazingly bad. All major, and lots of minor outlets have video to show that the flags ringing the Washington Monument remain respectfully poised at half staff.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby Phred » Mon Aug 27, 2018 09:17:59

Trump is not invited to McCain's funeral as specified by McCain. Obama and W to give eulogies.

Hahaha...nice one John.

Trump banned from 2 funerals and a wedding, so far. You have to be a certain kind of asshole for that to happen to you.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Aug 27, 2018 10:02:28

who saw this coming:
North Korean state media has accused the US of plotting to "unleash war" on the country while continuing to negotiate "with a smile on its face."

Sunday's Rodong Sinmun newspaper, the official mouthpiece of the ruling Worker's Party of Korea, called out "extremely provocative and dangerous" US military movements in the region.

The paper cited a South Korean radio broadcast claiming that US "special units" in Japan staged a flying drill in the Philippines simulating "the infiltration into Pyongyang."

It also claimed that the USS Michigan, a nuclear Navy submarine, transported Green Berets and other special forces from Okinawa, Japan to the Jinhae naval base south Korea in late July or early August.

The strongly-worded piece comes just days after President Trump canceled a planned trip to North Korea by Secretary of State Mike Pompeo.

Trump on Friday said the plans were halted because the North Korea had not made "sufficient" efforts to denuclearize and because of the trade war with China, the regime's closest ally.

On Monday, South Korea said that Pompeo's abrupt cancelation is having an "effect" on the inter-Korean liaison office that was slated to open this month.

"We were thinking of the opening of the liaison office as part of a smooth series of schedules including Secretary of State Pompeo's North Korea visit then the inter-Korean summit," South Korea's presidential Blue House spokesman Kim Eui-kyeom said Monday.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby thephan » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:10:57

Flag protocol is to lower the flag for 18 hours unless there is a presidential proclamation. No directive, the flag went back up about midnight. No proclamation, it stays at full staff.
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Re: GOTV for Rep Moz ( (D-BSG) Politics Thread

Postby pacino » Mon Aug 27, 2018 11:17:25

the flag was simply no longer taking a knee

it's like the guy across the street from me that flies a blue lives matter American flag; flag protocol doesn't count if it's to own the libs
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