My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby swishnicholson » Thu Feb 22, 2018 00:54:28

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JFLNYC wrote:She did her job well. I blame Jake (or anyone else) for not pointing out that the concepts of keeping crazies away from AR-15’s and making AR-15’s generally less accessible are not mutually exclusive.


Ar15 is getting a bad rap, it has a lot of company, and these all need attention.


True, but any time anyone looking for restrictions on similar weapons tries to classify them, the talking point becomes how you can't classify these as assault/military/automatic/whatever weapons and the conversation quickly deteriorates into technical jargon and the actual issue goes out the window. AR15 is a safe focus as a weapon which is unnecessary except for making lots of holes in things or people in a very short time. Other weaponry with this focus should of course be included in restrictions but I'm fine with the AR15 being the focus of public discussion if it leads to meaningful laws with the necessary level of precision and expertise to restrict the continued profiting over selling this misery (I'm not hopeful, though).
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Doll Is Mine » Thu Feb 22, 2018 01:27:04

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Feb 22, 2018 05:07:04

Titlehungry wrote:I like how she decided not to go with the more politically correct mentally ill and instead repeatedly went with the phrase crazy monster lol



She talking to her base, who work mainly on an emotional level. If you say mentally ill or sickness, then people have to think and consider treatment. If you call them crazy monster, then they don't seem human. Language is really important.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Feb 22, 2018 05:09:12

Doll Is Mine wrote:One more thing: I cringed every time the sheriff kept saying that the govt should give the police the power to pull people out of their homes and put them in mental institutions. Nope.



they already have that ability, except they have to get a psychologist to say they may be a danger to themselves or others.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Feb 22, 2018 05:10:23

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 22, 2018 07:19:53

Doll Is Mine wrote:One more thing: I cringed every time the sheriff kept saying that the govt should give the police the power to pull people out of their homes and put them in mental institutions. Nope.

Wow, go freedom
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Feb 22, 2018 07:53:00

You have to wear makeup on tv. Otherwise you'd be totally washed out.

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby JFLNYC » Thu Feb 22, 2018 08:31:11

For men making a tv appearance like Rubio did last night it’s generally just some powder to avoid a sheen on the face under the bright and hot lights.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Woody » Thu Feb 22, 2018 08:34:07

Mopping up the flop sweat
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby JUburton » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:01:04

Shame Rubio got trounced so badly by Donald Trump that he got to be a senator again.

Also it's uncanny how if you're unsure of your thought process you can just see what our president thinks and if you're the opposite you're probably fine! Of course this dotard thinks the answer is arm the teachers.

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:03:51

JUburton wrote:Shame Rubio got trounced so badly by Donald Trump that he got to be a senator again.

Also it's uncanny how if you're unsure of your thought process you can just see what our president thinks and if you're the opposite you're probably fine! Of course this dotard thinks the answer is arm the teachers.

I never said “give teachers guns” like was stated on Fake News @CNN & @NBC. What I said was to look at the possibility of giving “concealed guns to gun adept teachers with military or special training experience - only the best. 20% of teachers, a lot, would now be able to

so give guns to teachers

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:06:35

Doll Is Mine wrote:
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New Dem pick-up in Trump country: Belcher (D) wins KY's #HD49 by 37%! via @adambeam

HD49 voted Trump 72%-23%, so a huge net swing of 86% compared to that. Yes, Belcher is a former Rep who barely lost re-election in 2016. Still, Dems get a net swing of 38% even compared to that.

her opponent is alleging voter fraud; she lost 68-32

the losing lady was the widow of the disgraced Kentucky legislator that killed himself
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:23:32

Both my parents did professional theatre growing up, so I knew about the makeup. I was just making fun of Rubio the Robot.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:28:14

Uncle Milty wrote:Try getting any agreement the definition of an assault weapon. Just ban anything automatic or semi-automatic.


Too broad, and would never get passed. that has you with revolvers, pump, level, and bolt action. So that would remove a gun like my "bird gun" which was my grandfathers and is a Browning semi-auto 12 gauge 3 shot magazine. A double barrel pretty much the same (third shell is a frustration shot when the pheasant flies into the sun set or the clay has pretty much hit the ground). the real push back, I think, would be handguns. I am pretty sure that wheel guns are only sold to cowboy shooters anymore.

I think that the list needs to be very clear. Manufacturer and Models identified, with no gun coming onto the market without approval. There are probably 1000+ models right now that should be on the list, and the first thing to do is change the name from AR or AK if I am a manufacturer. You can start with .223, 5.56mm, and 7.62mm weapons as a place to look to see what is going on. Those rounds are high powered rifle which are shoved into NATO and whatever we call Soviet these days weapons of war.I cannot honestly say that I have ever seen a rifle chambered with either of these that was not a semi-automatic.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Woody » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:31:32

East Stroudsburg just announced a double major in Elementary Education/Gun Adeptness
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:34:45

pacino wrote:
Doll Is Mine wrote:
Taniel @Taniel
New Dem pick-up in Trump country: Belcher (D) wins KY's #HD49 by 37%! via @adambeam

HD49 voted Trump 72%-23%, so a huge net swing of 86% compared to that. Yes, Belcher is a former Rep who barely lost re-election in 2016. Still, Dems get a net swing of 38% even compared to that.

her opponent is alleging voter fraud; she lost 68-32

the losing lady was the widow of the disgraced Kentucky legislator that killed himself


Dan Johnson’s was the guy who refused to resign amid allegations that he sexually assaulted a 17-year-old in his home after a church function, then he committed suicide. His widow, Rebecca Johnson, screams conspiracy, and continues to proclaim her late husband’s innocence.

Rebecca Johnson is also known for her outrageous, conspiracy theory to flat out lie presence on Facebook.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby Werthless » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:36:37

Woody wrote:East Stroudsburg just announced a double major in Elementary Education/Gun Adeptness

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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:36:48

thephan wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:Try getting any agreement the definition of an assault weapon. Just ban anything automatic or semi-automatic.


Too broad, and would never get passed. that has you with revolvers, pump, level, and bolt action. So that would remove a gun like my "bird gun" which was my grandfathers and is a Browning semi-auto 12 gauge 3 shot magazine. A double barrel pretty much the same (third shell is a frustration shot when the pheasant flies into the sun set or the clay has pretty much hit the ground). the real push back, I think, would be handguns. I am pretty sure that wheel guns are only sold to cowboy shooters anymore.

I think that the list needs to be very clear. Manufacturer and Models identified, with no gun coming onto the market without approval. There are probably 1000+ models right now that should be on the list, and the first thing to do is change the name from AR or AK if I am a manufacturer. You can start with .223, 5.56mm, and 7.62mm weapons as a place to look to see what is going on. Those rounds are high powered rifle which are shoved into NATO and whatever we call Soviet these days weapons of war.I cannot honestly say that I have ever seen a rifle chambered with either of these that was not a semi-automatic.

Maryland has a list of 45 different firearms that held up in court, as has California's recent restrictions involving waiting periods. Extending the waiting period is one of the easiest ways to combat suicides.

we had a ban for 10 years. this isn't rocket science; take the requirements to be on that ban and modernize it. the disingenuous nature of the anti-regulation side is frustrating.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:38:40

Woody wrote:East Stroudsburg just announced a double major in Elementary Education/Gun Adeptness


How about range safety officer as a minor. Up at a school like Mansfield you might need to be armed against black bears (unless they've been eradicated), so there is a practical purpose.
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Re: My Mate Gerry Loves Politics

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 09:43:01

pacino wrote:
thephan wrote:
Uncle Milty wrote:Try getting any agreement the definition of an assault weapon. Just ban anything automatic or semi-automatic.


Too broad, and would never get passed. that has you with revolvers, pump, level, and bolt action. So that would remove a gun like my "bird gun" which was my grandfathers and is a Browning semi-auto 12 gauge 3 shot magazine. A double barrel pretty much the same (third shell is a frustration shot when the pheasant flies into the sun set or the clay has pretty much hit the ground). the real push back, I think, would be handguns. I am pretty sure that wheel guns are only sold to cowboy shooters anymore.

I think that the list needs to be very clear. Manufacturer and Models identified, with no gun coming onto the market without approval. There are probably 1000+ models right now that should be on the list, and the first thing to do is change the name from AR or AK if I am a manufacturer. You can start with .223, 5.56mm, and 7.62mm weapons as a place to look to see what is going on. Those rounds are high powered rifle which are shoved into NATO and whatever we call Soviet these days weapons of war.I cannot honestly say that I have ever seen a rifle chambered with either of these that was not a semi-automatic.

Maryland has a list that held up in court, as has California's recent restrictions involving waiting periods. Extending the waiting period is one of the easiest ways to combat suicides.


I completely agree with long waiting periods. If I cannot plan my duck hunting trip because I am clueless, I should not have a gun anyway. seriously, take a month, and make me pay for some type of advanced/in depth check, and make it sort of expensive.

The People's Republic of Maryland is not my best example of a good way to go forward. 2 officers killed in the last 10 days there, and three children recently orphaned in a domestic dispute because the state/courts 'missed' that the shooter stated that he had access to a weapon several times, in writing. It might be a place to start, but the race analogy is not going to work because it is both a sprint and a distance race (mixed distance relay at those crazy track invitationals, but no one knows what those are, including the runners).
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