Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby Werthless » Fri Dec 22, 2017 15:26:25

thephan wrote:
A Dutch journalist just asked new U.S. Ambassador Pete Hoekstra why he said there are “no go” areas in the Netherlands, where radical Muslims are setting cars and politicians on fire.

Hoekstra denied it, and called the claim “fake news.”

The reporter then showed Hoekstra a video clip of himself at a congressional hearing in 2015 saying: “The Islamic movement has now gotten to a point where they have put Europe into chaos. Chaos in the Netherlands, there are cars being burned, there are politicians that are being burned.”

“And yes, there are no-go zones in the Netherlands,” he added in the clip.

Then things got extremely weird.

When the reporter pressed, Hoekstra denied using the term “fake news,” which he'd uttered moments before.

“I didn’t call that fake news,” he said. “I didn’t use the words today. I don’t think I did.”






Sounds like Pete Hoekstra got a scratch on his scratch right there.

Video: https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/943991312570822656

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby traderdave » Fri Dec 22, 2017 15:38:14

LOL. The journalist was like

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Fri Dec 22, 2017 16:11:58

Seth Myers beat me to it, but i was wondering if we could gaslight Don by habong people just kiss the ring while the country get shit done. Would he notice?
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby Monkeyboy » Fri Dec 22, 2017 16:13:54

Bucky wrote:
thephan wrote:
A group of House Republicans has gathered secretly for weeks in the Capitol in an effort to build a case that senior leaders of the Justice Department and FBI improperly — and perhaps criminally — mishandled the contents of a dossier that describes alleged ties between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to four people familiar with their plans.

A subset of the Republican members of the House intelligence committee, led by Chairman Devin Nunes of California, has been quietly working parallel to the committee's high-profile inquiry into Russian meddling in the 2016 presidential election. They haven't informed Democrats about their plans, but they have consulted with the House's general counsel.

The people familiar with Nunes' plans said the goal is to highlight what some committee Republicans see as corruption and conspiracy in the upper ranks of federal law enforcement.


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A congressional aide with knowledge of the meetings said Rep. Trey Gowdy (R-S.C.) was not among the participants. ”While he does believe the FBI and DOJ have recently made decisions worth looking into, he is and will always be a defender of the FBI, DOJ and the special counsel," the aide said.


How is the operating idea that your politics are bad, and my politics are good fit into America? A flat out partisan operation is beyond suspect, especially if potential same party objectors are removed to advance an agenda. It almost dances on the edge of the definition of conspiracy itself (a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.) depending on harm it could create. it certainly is McCarthy like.


i think we're heading for an all-out constitutional crisis


Given the near complete control by true believers from one party across all three branches of government, I think we're more in line with a constitution burning. They're trying to tear it all down. I can't wait for the 2nd constitutional convention. It will be a blast.

Almost half the electorate has been brainwashed, quite literally, to believe a pack of lies that are crazy on their face. Things that go completely against common sense, often with video or other powerful evidence, are completely dismissed. That's some high level propaganda work right there. They've been working at it for years.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 22, 2017 17:49:35

a MILLION PEOPLEhave cholera in Yemen
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 22, 2017 17:50:57

those cabinet meetings are insane spectacles of Trump showing power and also showing how badly he needs approval
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby traderdave » Fri Dec 22, 2017 18:26:04

pacino wrote:those cabinet meetings are insane spectacles of Trump showing power and also showing how badly he needs approval


They really are something straight out of 1930s Germany or Kim Jung Un's North Korea. How does Pence look his son in the eye after a "speech" like he gave the other day?

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Fri Dec 22, 2017 18:44:38

foreclosures in Puerto Rico show signs of 2008 repeat
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby JUburton » Sat Dec 23, 2017 13:14:48

Stoking Fears, Trump Defied Bureaucracy to Advance Immigration Agenda

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/23/us/p ... .html?_r=0

Haiti had sent 15,000 people. They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there. Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Sat Dec 23, 2017 14:44:29

depending on the conservative, the response will either be: "FAKE NEWS" or "and?"
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby slugsrbad » Sat Dec 23, 2017 16:49:45

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby thephan » Sat Dec 23, 2017 17:20:17

pacino wrote:depending on the conservative, the response will either be: "FAKE NEWS" or "and?"


Never happened.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Sat Dec 23, 2017 23:41:20

The big issue now is 'chain migration,' which is essentially not a real thing. It's never been about illegal immigration; it's always simply been about immigration and who is coming.

Your Trumpie relatives will concentrate on this while ignoring how their family came here.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby Stay_Disappointed » Sun Dec 24, 2017 01:22:36

I totally despise trump but I really believe mike pence is the worst person in the world
I would rather see you lose than win myself

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby The Savior » Sun Dec 24, 2017 07:53:09

Warszawa wrote:I totally despise trump but I really believe mike pence is the worst person in the world


Way too incompetent and dumb for that honor
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby pacino » Sun Dec 24, 2017 11:47:21

pacino wrote:The big issue now is 'chain migration,' which is essentially not a real thing. It's never been about illegal immigration; it's always simply been about immigration and who is coming.

Your Trumpie relatives will concentrate on this while ignoring how their family came here.

this talking point has been disseminated way quicker than I thought it would be
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby JFLNYC » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:16:55

Ironic because chain migration is how this country was built.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby Bucky » Sun Dec 24, 2017 12:49:48

i think the bill's focus of eliminating people who itemize will really hurt my fire company's fund drive going forward

also, along those same lines, i imagine democratic candidates receive a much larger share of their funding from people who will no longer be itemizing than their R counterparts

/conspiracy theory

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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby TenuredVulture » Sun Dec 24, 2017 13:55:43

Bucky wrote:i think the bill's focus of eliminating people who itemize will really hurt my fire company's fund drive going forward

also, along those same lines, i imagine democratic candidates receive a much larger share of their funding from people who will no longer be itemizing than their R counterparts

/conspiracy theory



I don't know why Dems would be more likely to itemize than Reps--Reps are higher income, and thus far more likely to itemize--it shouldn't make any difference to anyAlso, political contributions are not tax deductible. There are of course lots of loopholes, but I believe they've been more commonly exploited by conservative groups.
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Re: Hypocrisy is dead. Seize the politics

Postby Bucky » Sun Dec 24, 2017 14:54:40

they're not deductible? Oops. I hope threecount doesn't see this and turn me in!!

That's what I said- in the future more R donors will be itemizing than D's. I assume that was the slant in the past also, but the new code will eliminate (from itemizing) a lot more D donors than Rs.

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