Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Bucky » Fri Nov 03, 2017 15:03:40

Slowhand wrote:Draft dodging Trump declares Bergdahl decision deplorable.

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Nov 03, 2017 15:11:59

All that talk of the Mueller investigation closing up is just wishful thinking since the first rials are slated for May. Its really just getting started.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Nov 03, 2017 15:23:15

It begins: (warning, think progress liberal cuck link)
A week after news broke that special counsel Robert Mueller had handed down the first indictments in the investigation into the Trump campaign’s potential collusion with Russia, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has introduced a resolution calling for his recusal.

Gaetz, along with Reps. Louie Gohmert of Texas and Andy Biggs of Arizona, cite Mueller’s involvement in the “Uranium One” controversy. He was serving as FBI director at the time.


The problem is there is very little weight behind this argument.

Clinton did not have the ability to neither approve or veto the sale, her involvement was as one of nine cabinet members of the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). Only the president can decide to block a sale for national security reasons. None of the other eight members or President Obama voted against or blocked the sale, and this is likely because the sale posed no national security risk.

A lot of discussion surrounding the scandal focuses on an argument that Russia obtained 20 percent of the American uranium supply — in reality, it’s closer to zero. This is because the U.S. mines owned by Uranium One do not contain quality uranium and are barely used. The Russians were only interested in Uranium One to create productive Uranium mines in Kazakhstan.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Nov 03, 2017 15:32:34

the hack of Podesta's emails

The Trump campaign had gotten a whiff of Clinton email hacking, too. According to recently unsealed court documents, former Trump foreign policy adviser George Papadopoulos said that it was at an April 26 meeting at a London hotel that he was told by a professor closely connected to the Russian government that the Kremlin had obtained compromising information about Clinton.

“They have dirt on her,” Papadopoulos said he was told. “They have thousands of emails.”

A few days later, Amy Dacey, then the DNC chief executive, got an urgent call.

There’d been a serious breach at the DNC.

All three leak-branded sites have distanced themselves from Moscow. DCLeaks claimed to be run by American hacktivists. WikiLeaks said Russia wasn’t its source. Guccifer 2.0 claimed to be Romanian.

But there were signs of dishonesty from the start. The first document Guccifer 2.0 published on June 15 came not from the DNC as advertised but from Podesta’s inbox, according to a former DNC official who spoke on condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the press.

The official said the word “CONFIDENTIAL” was not in the original document.

Guccifer 2.0 had airbrushed it to catch reporters’ attention.

The same afternoon, just as the American electorate was digesting a lewd audio tape of Trump boasting about sexually assaulting women, WikiLeaks began publishing the emails stolen from Podesta.

The publications sparked a media stampede as they were doled out one batch at a time, with many news organizations tasking reporters with scrolling through the thousands of emails being released in tranches. At the AP alone, as many as 30 journalists were assigned, at various times, to go through the material.

Guccifer 2.0 told one reporter he was thrilled that WikiLeaks had finally followed through.

“Together with Assange we’ll make america great again,” he wrote.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Slowhand » Fri Nov 03, 2017 15:41:54

Bucky wrote:
Slowhand wrote:Draft dodging Trump declares Bergdahl decision deplorable.


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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Nov 03, 2017 15:45:05

the Trump legacy will live on long past when he's out of office:

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This wk the senate confirmed 4 circuit judges + 1 district judge We have confirmed more circuits than Clinton Obama Bush each did in 1st yr
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Squire » Fri Nov 03, 2017 16:46:51

The other thing worth noting is how poorly the President comprehends what is against the law and what isn't. The DNC stuff is interesting but what could possibly be the crime there.

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Houshphandzadeh » Fri Nov 03, 2017 17:45:19


it seems like they changed the headline on this to say it's not human drive but the text still says that's what the report finds?

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Fri Nov 03, 2017 19:33:00

I haven't really formed much of an opinion yet myself, but to add to the discussion of the DNC/Clinton thing...

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/don ... ing-claims

I think I want to see some evidence for what she's saying.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby JUburton » Fri Nov 03, 2017 20:35:06

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/electi ... al-n817411

Looks like Brazile was less than completely honest.

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby pacino » Fri Nov 03, 2017 21:06:09

the first post seems like his read on it; he's certainly willing to take that track, but having those agreements for hiring are a big deal. it seems like figuring out Brazile's motives more than anything. to me that's immaterial. I really don't care about her.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Dude » Fri Nov 03, 2017 21:07:35

I think how the money was distributed throughout the party was a bigger deal than that, too
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Fri Nov 03, 2017 21:58:13

Republican Ed Gillespie, already capitalizing on Confederate monuments and Latino gangs, has added national anthem protests to the red-meat smorgasbord he’s serving up in the homestretch of the Virginia governor’s race.


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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Fri Nov 03, 2017 22:21:40

Squire wrote:The other thing worth noting is how poorly the President comprehends what is against the law and what isn't. The DNC stuff is interesting but what could possibly be the crime there.


He comprehends that it doesn't matter.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Rococo4 » Sat Nov 04, 2017 00:28:11

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BREAKING: Bergdahl to get dishonorable discharge, lose rank, forfeit pay in addition to getting no prison time.

probably an appropriate decision; guy needs help, not prison

there'll be an uproar


Disagree. There should be an uproar.
he was a taliban captive for 5 years and spent 3 in jail during this trial.


yeah i get that. and i'm not going to lose sleep over it, what's done is done. In my opinion, he should serve jail time moving forward, because his actions had unfortuante dire consequences for many who looked for him after he walked off. wandering off your US base in Afghanistan comes with certain risks, one of which is you might get captured.

Not going to get all that worked up about it. And I don' think many people will - unless / until one of the 5 he was traded for commits some new henious act, which will blow this story up again.

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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 06:16:00

Rococo4 wrote:
Not going to get all that worked up about it. And I don' think many people will - unless / until one of the 5 he was traded for commits some new henious act, which will blow this story up again.



and that will happen for sure because they know it will work to divide us.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby Monkeyboy » Sat Nov 04, 2017 10:20:49

http://thehill.com/policy/international ... ion-effort

So now all that money from Rosneft profits can go unreported or investigated.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby The Savior » Sat Nov 04, 2017 14:27:41

Donna Brazile is all kinds of attention seeking.

Got to be honest - why someone who was behind one of the bigger strategic blunders in recent political times is trying so badly to be in the public spotlight is beyond me. It's like Steve Bartman coming out and being like "Moises should've stayed out of my way" a week after that game.
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Sat Nov 04, 2017 14:47:20

Careful, I got peed on for saying as much
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Re: Don't Go Flake-in My Heart - Politics Thread

Unread postby thephan » Sat Nov 04, 2017 14:52:57

So, back in the spotlight news, the Bush,s let it go into a book that they did not vote for the Don, and daddy Bush said that he just doesn’t think Trump is worthy of his approval. White House rolls out the artillary with daughter of the swamp Huckabee delivering criticism of both of them. No word where Billy Bush stand on anything, if either GB will claim him as family,
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