Fox News ran a story on Oct. 8 about a decorated Vietnam War Navy SEAL and glass artist who created an enormous presidential glass seal he hoped to give to President Trump. On Thursday, 11 days later, the network retracted the story after being told the Trump supporter never served in the SEALs or in Vietnam, much less earned commendations for his service.

drsmooth wrote:oh, and #$!&@ Kelly. If his son had a soul, he's spinning in his grave. Filthy shameless #$!&@

“When I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country,” he said. “Women were sacred and looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore, as we see from recent cases.”

JUburton wrote:women should be on pedestals.

in the kitchen. where they belong.

TomatoPie wrote:

drsmooth wrote:oh, and #$!&@ Kelly. If his son had a soul, he's spinning in his grave. Filthy shameless #$!&@

Kelly is a magnificent man.

BLUE BELL, Pa. — With primary campaign season starting up, Pennsylvania's three announced GOP candidates for governor auditioned Thursday night for Montgomery County Republicans, whose members may be the state party's most generous campaign donors.

All three — Scott Wagner of York County and Paul Mango and Laura Ellsworth of suburban Pittsburgh — stressed their business experience and their confidence that they can solve the problems of a state saddled with a slow-growing economy and a government at perhaps its most dysfunctional moment in budgeting since the recession. It was their first forum together.

Wagner, a state senator since 2014 who operates the waste-hauling firm he founded, has been campaigning the longest, and is the only one of the three who previously has run for public office. Referring to his interests in waste-hauling, trucking and real estate, he drummed on the subject of the state government's business regulations, saying it has run amok and must be fundamentally pared back to allow the economy to grow.
"Pennsylvania is a patient that is dying in the emergency room, it is bleeding to death," Wagner told the crowd of about 300 people during the 50-minute forum at the Bluestone Country Club.
Ellsworth ran her law firm's Pittsburgh office and has played a prominent role in steering the city's civic institutions and business associations, living there since Pittsburgh hit what she called the bottom of its economic cycle more than 30 years ago.
Labeling herself a "problem solver," she said she helped lead Pittsburgh's rebirth.
"I've been in those trenches, and I know what it takes to deliver the promise of Pennsylvania," Ellsworth said.
Mango, an Army veteran and a former health care systems consultant, characterized himself as the candidate best-equipped to stoke an economic recovery in Pennsylvania.
"It will only require a governor who has the vision, the leadership capabilities, the plan and a sense of urgency," Mango said.

Asked what they'd do about the state government's current fiscal troubles, they all avoided specifics. Wagner said he'd streamline costs in state agencies; Ellsworth said she'd impose discipline by requiring a comprehensive, on-time budget plan; and Mango said the state cannot pull out of its current doldrums without a strategy to boost the economy.

His penchant for speaking off-the-cuff makes him a magnet for controversy, and he made one eyebrow-raising comment while discussing the need for skilled blue-collar workers when he accused Philadelphia's powerful trade unions of being racist.
"Do you know that the trade unions in Philadelphia employ no blacks?" Wagner said. "The trade unions I'm finding are racist, and it's unfortunate because, I have to tell you this, I know a lot of decent black men and women that would love to be trained or learn to be a plumber or an electrician or a heavy-equipment operator, and we need to give those people opportunities."
Afterward, Rick Bloomingdale, president of the Pennsylvania chapter of the AFL-CIO, called Wagner's assertion a "bald-faced lie" and said the city's trade unions do indeed employ African-Americans.

pacino wrote:i think the statement :

“When I was a kid growing up, a lot of things were sacred in our country,” he said. “Women were sacred and looked upon with great honor. That’s obviously not the case anymore, as we see from recent cases.”

shows we come from very different places. he comes from the MAGA place.

jerseyhoya wrote:docsmooth struggles and tcc loves conspiracies. getting old is tough.

JUburton wrote:kelly's the kind of guy who thinks you have no real right to talk about the military unless you've been in it so he can fuck right off with the rest of them in the white house.

smitty wrote:

JUburton wrote:kelly's the kind of guy who thinks you have no real right to talk about the military unless you've been in it so he can fuck right off with the rest of them in the white house.

You have a right to talk about the military. It's what we fight for. But it's extremely difficult to understand what the military is all about unless you've served. I think good journalists who are embedded with combat troops have a pretty good understanding of the real deal. Rick Atkinson is an example of a guy who never served but is very, very good at understanding how the military works. But the majority of folks who haven't served don't get the whole picture.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rick_Atkinson

That said, there's a really important reason the military is under civilian control. We don't need military coups in this country. And the military does get involved in SNAFUs, FUBBs, JANFUs, FUBARs and other nasty things. When those things get reported, military often works on improving its strategic, operational and tactical functions. A lot of times, the military doesn't wait for the press to report on a FUBAR. The high ranking guys in the service are impressively intelligent and aggressive in regard to solving complex problems.





My experience in the Army was this: A lot of the time it sucked. But you often had a chance to do some really cool stuff.