JUburton wrote:CNN: John Kelly told Trump Obama never called him when his son died, but he didn't think Trump would tell everyone.
John Kelly dipshit confirmed
Doll Is Mine wrote:This Ellen DeGeneres look alike on ESPN is annoying. Who the hell is he?
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
Not really a take to assume that Trump will take anything anyone says and use it to his own devices especially when it could be seen as a hit on Obama. Obvious hyperbole, but what did you think would happen, John.slugsrbad wrote:JUburton wrote:CNN: John Kelly told Trump Obama never called him when his son died, but he didn't think Trump would tell everyone.
John Kelly dipshit confirmed
That's a take. It's his job to try and get the POTUS to not be a completely awful person (probably failing here). I assume that he told Pres. Trump the story to imprint how much a phone call could mean. That he probably only got a letter or maybe a meeting in person a little down the line, but hearing from the Commander-in-Chief shortly after helps in the hopes of getting Trump to call the families of those lost in Niger.
Trump, being Trump, Trumped.
HARRISBURG — The potential for a tax on Marcellus shale natural gas production gained new life Wednesday, as a bill emerged from a state House committee and Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf urged leaders of the Republican-controlled chamber to speed it to a floor vote.
Wolf, who has long sought the tax, called the proposal "fair and commonsense."
Pennsylvania, the nation's No. 2 gas state thanks to the prolific Marcellus shale, is the only major natural gas producer that does not tax production. Wolf and other supporters of the tax say it is a fair way to help stitch up Pennsylvania's deficit-riddled finances amid a four-month budget standoff.
Six Republicans on the House Finance Committee defied party leaders to vote for the bill with all 10 Democrats.
The exploration industry opposes it, as does the Pennsylvania Chamber of Business and Industry, and it still faces a climb to get to Wolf's desk. House Republican leaders, who oppose it, could use procedural tactics to bottle it up or delay it.
The Republican-controlled Senate approved a similar tax in July, along with provisions designed to speed up the state's issuance of pollution-control permits for the activities of various industries. The House bill did not include those provisions, and Senate Majority Leader Jake Corman, R-Centre, said Republicans in his chamber would not support the tax without them.
The House bill imposes a volume tax that rises with the price of natural gas from 2 cents per thousand cubic feet to 3.5 cents per thousand cubic feet. A sponsor, Rep. Gene DiGirolamo, R-Bucks, said at the current price it would raise about $250 million in a full year, although others calculated a figure closer to $100 million, using 2016 production and current prices.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
JUburton wrote:Not really a take to assume that Trump will take anything anyone says and use it to his own devices especially when it could be seen as a hit on Obama. Obvious hyperbole, but what did you think would happen, John.slugsrbad wrote:JUburton wrote:CNN: John Kelly told Trump Obama never called him when his son died, but he didn't think Trump would tell everyone.
John Kelly dipshit confirmed
That's a take. It's his job to try and get the POTUS to not be a completely awful person (probably failing here). I assume that he told Pres. Trump the story to imprint how much a phone call could mean. That he probably only got a letter or maybe a meeting in person a little down the line, but hearing from the Commander-in-Chief shortly after helps in the hopes of getting Trump to call the families of those lost in Niger.
Trump, being Trump, Trumped.
I don't see how that has anything to do with 'but he didn't think Trump would tell everyone'.Werthless wrote:JUburton wrote:Not really a take to assume that Trump will take anything anyone says and use it to his own devices especially when it could be seen as a hit on Obama. Obvious hyperbole, but what did you think would happen, John.slugsrbad wrote:JUburton wrote:CNN: John Kelly told Trump Obama never called him when his son died, but he didn't think Trump would tell everyone.
John Kelly dipshit confirmed
That's a take. It's his job to try and get the POTUS to not be a completely awful person (probably failing here). I assume that he told Pres. Trump the story to imprint how much a phone call could mean. That he probably only got a letter or maybe a meeting in person a little down the line, but hearing from the Commander-in-Chief shortly after helps in the hopes of getting Trump to call the families of those lost in Niger.
Trump, being Trump, Trumped.
We weren't there for the conversation. If Trump asked him "Did Obama call you?" what do you expect him to say? Lie?
Uncle Milty wrote:I guess I'm the outlier but I don't understand the expectation for the president to call.
Uncle Milty wrote:I guess I'm the outlier but I don't understand the expectation for the president to call.
swishnicholson wrote:Uncle Milty wrote:I guess I'm the outlier but I don't understand the expectation for the president to call.
There isn't one. Presidents have conveyed condolences in various ways and in various situations throughout history.
Trump, in his usual thin-skinned, irascible and impulsive way created an issue where there wasn't one. Here's a decent summery.
thephan wrote:pacino's posting is one of the more important things revealed in weeks.
Calvinball wrote:Pacino was right.
JUburton wrote:heard gwb sent them all personal paintings
thephan wrote:Sarah said that General Kelly is disgusted that this has been politicized. The this would be dragging his son into the ring, right, then pitting him against another Gold Star family, right, so he is pissed at the president...
*tap, tap, tap, is this thing on, tap, tap tap... hello, anyone out there?
General Kelly should know that there is a huge difference between being a 'good soldier', and being a prop in a confidence scam, so exiting stage right is not a personal failure but perhaps a great service to the nation.
Yeah, I don't think it's that bad here but the impulse in the media to say 'thank god there are adults in the room like kelly and mcmaster', while understandable, is still disappointing given they're pretty much bush admin carbon copies.Houshphandzadeh wrote:feel like some of you guys think John Kelly is a good person not willing to play political games
he's a strident xenophobe and unabashedly endorses the playbook of pushing targeted immigration reduction by conflating economic immigration with the danger of groups like MS13 and the cartels. just check out one of his speeches and be grossed out
JUburton wrote:heard gwb sent them all personal paintings