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Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:36:18

Not really feeling Ron Johnson on the ramparts, turning back a shittily insane repeal bill. Capito had better sack up, as well as Graham AND McCain. If McCain's cool with letting this sorry shit float, after that hubba hubba speech the other day, he's hands-down the winner of the 2017 Orrin Hatch Chickenshit of the Senate Award
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Postby pacino » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:39:55

Pathetic cowards
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Postby MoBettle » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:44:08

Youseff wrote:
Youseff wrote:10 departures from the Trump administration in 6 months. even if you're a gigantic idiot and think the Russia story isn't worth our attention, you have to feel some level of concern with Trump's inability to run an organization, and the implications that has for his ability to lead the country.


During the campaign, Trump said he hired "top, top people" and would fill his administration "with only the best and most serious people."

Well he didn't say he would do it right away.
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Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:45:16

What in the world makes them think they'll come up with something acceptable in conference even if it gets there? Republicans can't govern themselves let alone the country.
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Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:49:22

Tim Weiner suggested tonite that if it were to happen, he would rank drumpf's firing of Mueller "somewhere between the Saturday Night Massacre and the Reichstag fire"

hmm....

kept calling Mueller "Bobby", though, which was creepy
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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:52:00

I'm not entirely sure what this is looking to accomplish. I mean, other than saying "we did something." It's not even really cutting taxes for rich people or stealing healthcare from poor people or any of the good, evil things.

The individual mandate is needed to hold the individual market together if you're going to have guaranteed issue. The bill is not taking that away. The state waivers are pretty much nonsense because ones with teeth can't get through reconciliation.

It's not like more policy changes can come in during conference because they'll get ruled out by the parliamentarian as well. Guess some medicaid cuts can roll in then, but that's supposedly what will cause it to fail to pass the Senate. So then does the House just pass this garbage? I get laying your neck out on the line to overhaul Medicaid. I don't see that as the end game here tho.

Seems like they're running out of potential no votes. Hopefully Mike Lee or McCain or Rand or someone throws a fit as the third no and Murkowski & Collins stick with that.

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Postby pacino » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:55:27

They get to stick it to planned parenthood, so that's fun
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Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jul 27, 2017 22:58:33

If the sole goal is to get to conference why don't they pass something totally innocuous (e.g., Medicaid will be reviewed in 2 years) so they can get to conference without worrying about whether the House will just vote on it?
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Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:01:14

JFLNYC wrote:If the sole goal is to get to conference why don't they pass something totally innocuous (e.g., Medicaid will be reviewed in 2 years) so they can get to conference without worrying about whether the House will just vote on it?

Or stick something in there that guarantees it won't be voted on by the House on top of the policy changes you do want.

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a fun way to think about the REPUBLICAN health care bill:

- Destabilizes private insurance

- Preserves government insurance

Honestly feel like walking to the Capitol right now and yelling at these people.
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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:01:24

This is so horrifically bad. I'm sad for our country.

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Postby pacino » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:02:32

Women bare the brunt of this.
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Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:05:36

pacino wrote:Women bare the brunt of this.


The naked truth.
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Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:14:28

in another world, Mooch's glaring conflict of interest re: this Skybridge/Chinese influence scam of his would be scandal enough to take a lot of the White House down. Instead it will be rubberstamped & sail thru Tillerson, Mnuchin, Sessions, et al without a peep
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Postby JFLNYC » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:23:00

Elect a clown, expect a circus.
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Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:32:54

From Senator Chris Murphy (D-CT):

Friends -

Just about 90 minutes ago, we got our first look at the health care bill we’re going to vote on in the United States Senate.

Republicans call it the “Health Care Freedom Act,” and there is definitely freedom in the bill. The freedom to go bankrupt. The freedom to get sick and not be able to afford a doctor. Freedom from health care from 16 million people who will lose insurance when it becomes law.

Now, there are a lot of Republican Senators who are voting for this bill although even though they say it’s terrible. They say their problems can be fixed in something called a “Conference Committee” with the House of Representatives.

But let’s be honest about what is going to happen. Sure, maybe there will be a conference committee. But it won’t resolve any problems. They’ll argue for a couple of weeks, there will be no consensus, and the House will vote to pass this Senate bill.

And then President Trump will sign it.

Time is running out. We only have a few hours left. Forward this email to your friends. Post on social media. Call Republican Senators. And sign my petition.

Tell the Senate: start over, debate any health care changes through the committee process. And tonight, vote NO on this so-called “Health Care Freedom Act” that will take away care from millions of Americans.

This bill is a humanitarian disaster waiting to be unleashed on the American people. Thank you for making your voice heard.

Every best wish,

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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:34:12

Pence on his way. They have the votes.

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Postby drsmooth » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:53:03

Really looking forward to another stirring speech from The Maverick
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Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jul 27, 2017 23:56:16

Just gonna go to bed. Can't watch this makes my heart ache (pre existing condition)

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Postby slugsrbad » Fri Jul 28, 2017 00:06:06

this is a fucking sham
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Postby slugsrbad » Fri Jul 28, 2017 00:18:06

FUCK YOU GOP.
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