Trump at CEO townhall on #CommonCore: I like the fact we’re getting rid of Common Core. We have to end it. We have to bring education local.

Yes because trying to make sure that a 7th grader in Kentucky can read or understand mathematics near/at the same level as a 7th grader in Massachusetts is the devil's work.

the misunderstanding of common core is one of the last bipartisan areas in politics

Advocates of common core will admit they really botched the public relations aspect of it, so much so that even teachers don't understand it.

The various examples of "common core math" on face book were ridiculous, but probably contributed a lot to this misconception.

pacino wrote:the misunderstanding of common core is one of the last bipartisan areas in politics

It really is incredible how obtuse people are on this topic. My favorites are the people that hate Common Core but have no problem with, and even advocate for, PARCC. Our wonderful governor is one of those people.

plenty of educators hate it. it isn't some settled debate

i don't think anyone said otherwise

All turtleface needs to do is get 60 senators to vote for drumpf's nominee. Otherwise, HE needs to act to change Senate rules on advise/consent of Court nominees. It's not anyone else doing something; not consenting is not against current rules.

Not getting 60 votes, but proceeding to arrange to approve a nominee with fewer than 60 votes, is what is against current rules. It's on YOU, Yertle - not anyone else.

TenuredVulture wrote:Advocates of common core will admit they really botched the public relations aspect of it, so much so that even teachers don't understand it.

The various examples of "common core math" on face book were ridiculous, but probably contributed a lot to this misconception.

Can you link to a good article that advocates for it? I don't know enough to be able to argue about it, which makes me sad.

jerseyhoya wrote:

drsmooth wrote:

jerseyhoya wrote: It smells like victory.

washington free beacon? smells more like day-old fish

The beacon is great

my friend works there. well we arent very close anymore. he is OBSESSED with guns. writes all of their vile gun propaganda.

Werthless wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Advocates of common core will admit they really botched the public relations aspect of it, so much so that even teachers don't understand it.

The various examples of "common core math" on face book were ridiculous, but probably contributed a lot to this misconception.

Can you link to a good article that advocates for it? I don't know enough to be able to argue about it, which makes me sad.

Arguments about Common Core are receding into the past. the new frontier will be serious discussion about whether we should have any public education at all, beginning with whether there's any defensible federal government interest in it.

There is, of course, but if we're really going to allow ideological zombies like Betsy DeVos have any say in public policy of any kind, let alone education policy, god save us all

drsmooth wrote:

TomatoPie wrote: Until Tillerson proves otherwise

unfortunately, he's already proving otherwise: a secretive, behaviorally weird cipher whose agenda appears to be neither America's, nor drumpf's, but his own - whatever it may be.

I dunno, Doc. I appreciate the impulse to reject and resist anything with TrumpStain (TM) on it, but I haven't seen anything from Tillerson that gives me pause.

He went over to talk to the Chinese - and now Xi is coming here in an olive branch move. Xi is no dummy - he knows that Trump is a moron.

All that chatter about "don't look Tillerson in the eye" is unproven rumor.

He likes to work alone without a pack of press wolves around all the time? We'd love that in a guy appointed by Obama or even Romney.

Listen - TRUMP is the enemy here. Not Tillerson, not Gorsuch, not even O'Reilly.

Dems need to be a little selective in their battles. If you hollerin' about everything, you lose credibility. Forget about LBGT bathrooms and Trump's golfing. Focus on the important stuff.

Now maybe I will be proven wrong about Tillerson. But with verified vermin like Sessions, Kushner, Bannon, Miller, et al in positions of power, I'm not seeing Tillerson troubles in my tea leaves.

it's easy for you to say to forget about 'lgbt bathrooms'

He likes to work alone without a pack of press wolves around all the time? We'd love that in a guy appointed by Obama or even Romney.

who cares what he likes to do

TomatoPie wrote:If you hollerin' about everything, you lose credibility.

But not the presidency or Congress

TomatoPie wrote: I haven't seen anything from Tillerson that gives me pause.

he has no competent staff. He's not included in meetings with foreign leaders (Mexico, for example). He says almost nothing publicly about what he's up to, and when he does, it usually - not occasionally - conflicts with what drumpf happens to be raving about - which of course can be a good thing, but it's a disorganized, unsustainable thing.

Plus he himself is creepy.

All that chatter about "don't look Tillerson in the eye" is unproven rumor.

yeah. sure. He's weird, man. Maybe even windsurfing weird.

tHe likes to work alone without a pack of press wolves around all the time? We'd love that in a guy appointed by Obama or even Romney.

He occupies the chief foreign policy position in the executive branch after the presidency. He's a public god-damned official. He serves the American public, which is entitled to know what the fuck he's up to. What are you talking about?

Grotewold wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:If you hollerin' about everything, you lose credibility.

But not the presidency or Congress

truth

drsmooth wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:

tHe likes to work alone without a pack of press wolves around all the time? We'd love that in a guy appointed by Obama or even Romney.

He occupies the chief foreign policy position in the executive branch after the presidency. He's a public god-damned official. He serves the American public, which is entitled to know what the #$!&@ he's up to. What are you talking about?

Well yeah, that's ideal. But in the grand scheme of President Bannon's designs, it doesn't merit your attention.

The bigger question today is - when Trump is taken down - does Pence survive? You can get back to regular hollerin' then.

I'm certain he's dirty too, but he's smarter than all the clowns put together, and may be able to show some distance from all the dirty deeds. Very clever that Flynn had to resign for "failing to inform" Pence.

Grotewold wrote:

TomatoPie wrote:If you hollerin' about everything, you lose credibility.

But not the presidency or Congress

That is what is wrong with the filibuster, structurally, as it was used by the Republicans. It's like playing your trump card in every hand. No consequences for using it, so why not keep using it? Republicans filibustered more Obama nominees than I think all nominees by presidents from the previous however many administrations combined.

Werthless wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Advocates of common core will admit they really botched the public relations aspect of it, so much so that even teachers don't understand it.

The various examples of "common core math" on face book were ridiculous, but probably contributed a lot to this misconception.

Can you link to a good article that advocates for it? I don't know enough to be able to argue about it, which makes me sad.

Werthless - you can probably find one million articles for either side of the debate but here is a link to a pro/con piece from Brookings. I hope it is helpful.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/up ... ndards.pdf

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traderdave wrote:

Werthless wrote:

TenuredVulture wrote:Advocates of common core will admit they really botched the public relations aspect of it, so much so that even teachers don't understand it.

The various examples of "common core math" on face book were ridiculous, but probably contributed a lot to this misconception.

Can you link to a good article that advocates for it? I don't know enough to be able to argue about it, which makes me sad.

Werthless - you can probably find one million articles for either side of the debate but here is a link to a pro/con piece from Brookings. I hope it is helpful.

https://www.brookings.edu/wp-content/up ... ndards.pdf

That's the problem, isn't it? Hard to sift through the garbage, and I thought TV might have a good link. Thanks for the pdf.