Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby drsmooth » Sun Mar 12, 2017 11:09:27

Hoping Bharara used the extra day to download all the dirt he has on drumpfco
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby traderdave » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:01:34

So this latest round of attacks on Obama is supposed to bolster the "previous unemployment numbers were fake but our first reported round of numbers are 100% real" story line, correct?

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Youseff » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:11:41

in the latest in my personal grievances with Glenn Greenwald, he's all over the media saying he does think the CIA was involved in the election, and it was some sort of proxy war between them and the FBI. he's saying this despite a complete lack of evidence. what Wikileaks released last week is certainly interesting, but for any of us that have been paying attention, it's certainly not new. Our intelligence agencies using our technology to spy on us has been an active conversation for a couple decades now, amplified with the internet. So he's willing to say he thinks that the CIA was involved, despite no relevant evidence, and out the other side of his mouth he's still the same drunken loon that will raise a hissy fit for hours citing the lack of evidence if someone even suggests there was some sort of Russian involvement in the election. Something is wrong with that nut.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:35:46

He's exposed himself as a fraud at this point. He's accepted as fact something that has no evidence, after previously stating this was the case w Russia and emails, etc. If anything all that's been exposed is how inept the CIA is.

At least he's a decent writer. Michael Tracey has the smugness of Greenwald without ever uncovering anything on his own or writing about it in an interesting manner.

Both of these guys pick and choose the leaks they want to believe and project motives onto said leaks but then do no investigating into the leaks.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby slugsrbad » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:36:44

He's the guess on Pod Save the World this Wednesday... should be interesting.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:39:55

That's a good podcast, btw.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Youseff » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:40:48

Youseff wrote:
thephan wrote:That video was something else. Clearly there are plenty who have no idea what is what. I wanted to stop when I got to the woman saying that the militia are service men, but I left the train wreck keep going. McCain is a plan from the commies? Pizza gate should be investigated? Muslims want to go to schools and kill children (because of sharia law)? Jewish person needs to go back to her country? Mexican America will not speak Spanish in public (if he said he was scared to I would completely believe it)? And on and on.

The good news is that these people are space cadets and actual conservatives do not think like that at all. I know the party has been infiltrated, etc., and I agree to an extent, but that is not representative of the whole.


I think this might be one of those things we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better. Like when we get fired, and we say, "everything happens for a reason." Well, not really. Sometimes bad shit just happens and a lot of times it will get worse. In the case of the space cadets, the majority of the GOP still thinks Obama is a foreign agent, Muslim, whatever, and there's literally a cult of personality in the millions that support Trump, who elected Trump. The conservatives that you're talking about still exist, but they are the same ones that laid the foundational framework for the crazies. Charles Murray & the National Review are just more erudite versions of these maroons.


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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Youseff » Sun Mar 12, 2017 17:44:34

pacino wrote:He's exposed himself as a fraud at this point. He's accepted as fact something that has no evidence, after previously stating this was the case w Russia and emails, etc. If anything all that's been exposed is how inept the CIA is.

At least he's a decent writer. Michael Tracey has the smugness of Greenwald without ever uncovering anything on his own or writing about it in an interesting manner.

Both of these guys pick and choose the leaks they want to believe and project motives onto said leaks but then do no investigating into the leaks.


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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby 06hawkalum » Sun Mar 12, 2017 22:29:47

Youseff wrote:
Youseff wrote:
thephan wrote:That video was something else. Clearly there are plenty who have no idea what is what. I wanted to stop when I got to the woman saying that the militia are service men, but I left the train wreck keep going. McCain is a plan from the commies? Pizza gate should be investigated? Muslims want to go to schools and kill children (because of sharia law)? Jewish person needs to go back to her country? Mexican America will not speak Spanish in public (if he said he was scared to I would completely believe it)? And on and on.

The good news is that these people are space cadets and actual conservatives do not think like that at all. I know the party has been infiltrated, etc., and I agree to an extent, but that is not representative of the whole.


I think this might be one of those things we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better. Like when we get fired, and we say, "everything happens for a reason." Well, not really. Sometimes bad #$!&@ just happens and a lot of times it will get worse. In the case of the space cadets, the majority of the GOP still thinks Obama is a foreign agent, Muslim, whatever, and there's literally a cult of personality in the millions that support Trump, who elected Trump. The conservatives that you're talking about still exist, but they are the same ones that laid the foundational framework for the crazies. Charles Murray & the National Review are just more erudite versions of these maroons.


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Steve King Retweeted Voice of Europe
Wilders understands that culture and demographics are our destiny. We can't restore our civilization with somebody else's babies.


of course David Duke loves it

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GOD BLESS STEVE KING!!! #TruthRISING https://twitter.com/thehill/status/841005135199379456


Steve King is the most vile member of Congress by a considerable margin. He is just as committed a white supremacist as Duke.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Youseff » Mon Mar 13, 2017 00:24:01

06hawkalum wrote:
Youseff wrote:
Youseff wrote:
thephan wrote:That video was something else. Clearly there are plenty who have no idea what is what. I wanted to stop when I got to the woman saying that the militia are service men, but I left the train wreck keep going. McCain is a plan from the commies? Pizza gate should be investigated? Muslims want to go to schools and kill children (because of sharia law)? Jewish person needs to go back to her country? Mexican America will not speak Spanish in public (if he said he was scared to I would completely believe it)? And on and on.

The good news is that these people are space cadets and actual conservatives do not think like that at all. I know the party has been infiltrated, etc., and I agree to an extent, but that is not representative of the whole.


I think this might be one of those things we tell ourselves to make ourselves feel better. Like when we get fired, and we say, "everything happens for a reason." Well, not really. Sometimes bad #$!&@ just happens and a lot of times it will get worse. In the case of the space cadets, the majority of the GOP still thinks Obama is a foreign agent, Muslim, whatever, and there's literally a cult of personality in the millions that support Trump, who elected Trump. The conservatives that you're talking about still exist, but they are the same ones that laid the foundational framework for the crazies. Charles Murray & the National Review are just more erudite versions of these maroons.


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Steve King Retweeted Voice of Europe
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of course David Duke loves it

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GOD BLESS STEVE KING!!! #TruthRISING https://twitter.com/thehill/status/841005135199379456


Steve King is the most vile member of Congress by a considerable margin. He is just as committed a white supremacist as Duke.


notice all the GOP members and affiliates denouncing him. wait, there's none? wow, it's almost as if there's a big engine of the GOP that drives on the idea of white supremacy.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 00:57:16

Carlos Curbelo‏ @carloslcurbelo
.@SteveKingIA What exactly do you mean? Do I qualify as "somebody else's baby?" #concernedGOPcolleague

GOP Rep from Florida, son of Cuban exiles. Even this is pretty wishy washy. I understand decorum, but at some point your colleagues forfeit that right.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 13, 2017 06:52:47

my mini-Trump congressman Lloyd Smucker ran a poll via email:

President Trump wants to increase defense spending by $54 billion. Do you support this increase?

Yes, I support this increase in defense spending

36.98%

No, I do not support this increase in defense spending

54.82%

Other...
8.18%



Ha!
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 07:23:59

Youseff wrote:
notice all the GOP members and affiliates denouncing him. wait, there's none? wow, it's almost as if there's a big engine of the GOP that drives on the idea of white supremacy.


The Iowa GOP chairman:

First of all, I do not agree with Congressman King's statement. We are a nation of immigrants, and diversity is the strength of any nation and any community. Regarding David Duke, his words and sentiments are absolute garbage. He is not welcome in our wonderful state.


Refreshing to actually see some pushback, even if it was not immediate.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Bucky » Mon Mar 13, 2017 07:33:48

you mean the SO CALLED GOP CHAIRMAN

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby slugsrbad » Mon Mar 13, 2017 07:39:45

Bucky wrote:you mean the SO CALLED GOP CHAIRMAN


Why yes, I have heard him so called that.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 13, 2017 07:43:46

Steve King just wants the RIGHT immigrants ; the far right immigrants

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 13, 2017 08:21:47

Gov. Tom Wolf announced that the state is suing IBM, alleging that the company failed to deliver on a contract to upgrade the Unemployment Compensation system. "Pennsylvania taxpayers paid IBM nearly $170 million for what was supposed to be a comprehensive, integrated and modern system that it never got," Wolf said. IBM contends that the state's claims have no merit and plans to fight the lawsuit, the Associated Press reported.

maybe Deloitte is next!
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 13, 2017 08:33:36

The Yemeni proxy war turned two this past weekend. Fun times.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Mon Mar 13, 2017 08:41:54

sigh, story 157 about healthcare in an area that went Trump
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