Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:07:19

Followed a series of serious tweets accusing Obama of serious things with....a blame on Arnold over poor ratings of The Apprentice.

If you voted for this moron, you are a true idiot.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby JUburton » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:07:46

JUburton wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/north-korea-missile-program-sabotage.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

very glad trump and his best people will be dealing with this threat

hey, bsg hofer td11, it seems north korea doesnt have an icbm capable of hitting florida so ill see you soon!

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:11:25

Senator Cardin first I've heard mention Russians investigated HOW we count votes. Rxplitly says nothing suggesting they tampered but did research.

I've been saying this for months.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby td11 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:31:14

JUburton wrote:
JUburton wrote:https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/04/world/asia/north-korea-missile-program-sabotage.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=a-lede-package-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

very glad trump and his best people will be dealing with this threat

hey, bsg hofer td11, it seems north korea doesnt have an icbm capable of hitting florida so ill see you soon!

Come on down bb
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby CalvinBall » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:44:32

Robert Costa has some good info on the wiretap stuff and trump being mad about sessions on his Twitter feed.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:02:30

Trump is a moron.

If Trump is mad about a potential FISA wiretap, wonder what's on the tapes....
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:04:26

"I have to get these tax cuts done. The rich have struggled for way too long."

Tax cuts that don't help the middle class (fun fact: my tax rate won't change as it currently stands). This is what ironic republicans sold their souls for. A speaker who doesn't seem capable of leading and tax breaks that won't impact them.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby td11 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:04:45

Isn't he basically incriminating himself (not legally just generally)? Because if they issued a wiretap warrant a judge must've been reasonably convinced that there was something there
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby slugsrbad » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:18:36

You think President Obama followed the law? No he's as Crooked as Crooked Hillary. He's Bendy Obama.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:23:19

td11 wrote:Isn't he basically incriminating himself (not legally just generally)? Because if they issued a wiretap warrant a judge must've been reasonably convinced that there was something there



This. The president literally doesn't have the power to do this. If the FBI or intelligence committee was listening, it required a warrant. If either went off book to do it, that would be a different story. Doubt this would be leaking, even by trump, if it weren't above board.

What's coming is going to be massive, IMO.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Youseff » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:26:46

slugsrbad wrote:You think President Obama followed the law? No he's as Crooked as Crooked Hillary. He's Bendy Obama.


Obama was an imperialist because of his "so sue me attitude" and regulations of the coal industry.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby jerseyhoya » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:37:49

The Savior wrote:"I have to get these tax cuts done. The rich have struggled for way too long."

Tax cuts that don't help the middle class (fun fact: my tax rate won't change as it currently stands). This is what ironic republicans sold their souls for. A speaker who doesn't seem capable of leading and tax breaks that won't impact them.

If they pass tax reform, all tax rates are going to change, and likely the standard deduction will get bigger. I'm not sure how you've arrived at the conclusion that your tax rate won't change as it currently stands.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:38:14

Maybe President Mr Trump has simply come out for FISA reform. Big, if true.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby The Savior » Sat Mar 04, 2017 12:49:08

jerseyhoya wrote:
The Savior wrote:"I have to get these tax cuts done. The rich have struggled for way too long."

Tax cuts that don't help the middle class (fun fact: my tax rate won't change as it currently stands). This is what ironic republicans sold their souls for. A speaker who doesn't seem capable of leading and tax breaks that won't impact them.

If they pass tax reform, all tax rates are going to change, and likely the standard deduction will get bigger. I'm not sure how you've arrived at the conclusion that your tax rate won't change as it currently stands.


the last tax information passed around my company had my tax rate the same today as tomorrow. and making the standard deduction greater doesn't really do much unless it's substantially higher than my current deduction.

so again, all fluff. no substance.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Bucky » Sat Mar 04, 2017 13:15:05

but the standard deduction increase is meant to offset the elimination of lots of other deductions like mortgage interest and charitable contributions and stuff like that. So if the deductions works out to be a wash, and your tax rate doesn't change, then you're in the same boat, just painted a different color.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby 1 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 13:15:24

The CNN update is wonderful:

Trump, with no proof, says Obama tapped his phones.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby Bucky » Sat Mar 04, 2017 13:18:41

and i sure hope you make up that part about the rich struggling

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby cartersDad26 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 13:21:41

I never post in this thread or read it much since this my one internet safe haven from politics, but because i trust all the smart people on here...give me your takes on what is really gonna happen. I mean, he has to be going down in flames soon right? Please tell me he is. When will the Republicans finally agree they've milked him enough to enact their agenda to push him off the cliff? Pence won't be much better but at least he won't be a national embarrassment.

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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby pacino » Sat Mar 04, 2017 13:22:48

No, I don't think they do anything.
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Re: Russian 2 Judgment: Politics Thread (Special Sessions)

Postby JFLNYC » Sat Mar 04, 2017 13:24:36

Former Obama Deputy National Security Advisor Ben Rhodes says tap never happened. Tweets to Trump: "No President can order a wiretap. Those restrictions were put in place to protect citizens from people like you."
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