pacino wrote:in case you thought maybe the speech was going to be The Pivot (tm), 3 of the 6 people invited to sit next to the First Lady are relatives of people killed by undocumented immigrants. He's also inviting scalia's widow, the daughter of a guy that started a pharma company, and someone who graduated a private school.

slugsrbad wrote:

pacino wrote:in case you thought maybe the speech was going to be The Pivot (tm), 3 of the 6 people invited to sit next to the First Lady are relatives of people killed by undocumented immigrants. He's also inviting scalia's widow, the daughter of a guy that started a pharma company, and someone who graduated a private school.

I mean, the daughter is someone who was given a near-death sentence at 15 years old and her dad founded a pharma company to research a drug to save her life and she's now at Notre Dame. It's a generic inspiring guest that usually attend these things, but the inspiring should not be overlooked.

slugsrbad wrote:
I mean, the daughter is someone who was given a near-death sentence at 15 years old and her dad founded a pharma company to research a drug to save her life

td11 wrote:

slugsrbad wrote:
I mean, the daughter is someone who was given a near-death sentence at 15 years old and her dad founded a pharma company to research a drug to save her life

lolwut

Jason Kander wrote:POTUS just said our soldiers "don't fight to win." I'd happily introduce him to some friends of mine who have fought pretty hard to win.

Curt Schilling wrote:@JasonKander know he was referring to leadership and not the soldiers on the ground. But that doesn't allow you to piss about it of you

Curt Schilling wrote:@etrigan_27 @JasonKander and elsewhere all seemed like warfighters working their asses off to win. Jason, spend much time outside the wire?

Jason Kander wrote:A LOT of folks did more than me, but yes, I was outside the wire about 4 days/week. How about your deployment, Curt?

Curt Schilling wrote:@JasonKander I wasn't deployed, I just had the honor of spending 18 days in theater while visiting soldiers who actually did stuff.

Jason Kander wrote:@gehrig38 (editor note: Schilling's handle) Thank you for your service. We are forever in your debt.

@nktpnd 10h10 hours ago
Wowwowwow. These paragraphs are from a real, official US Department of Education statement from Betsy DeVos released today. pic.twitter.com/I2FDZfzdmt

td11 wrote:

JUburton wrote:

td11 wrote:

Youseff wrote:at this point I'll take allies where ever I can get them, but W is one of history's greatest monsters. not enjoying everyone cooing over him lately.

Yeah

but he paints

He was so cute in the rain w his poncho!!

Youseff wrote:

td11 wrote:

JUburton wrote:

td11 wrote:

Youseff wrote:at this point I'll take allies where ever I can get them, but W is one of history's greatest monsters. not enjoying everyone cooing over him lately.

Yeah

but he paints

He was so cute in the rain w his poncho!!

the maroons up thread are bemoaning me for thinking a guy that blatantly lied to get into a trillion dollar, ISIS vacuum creating, million civilian killing war isn't a horrible figure in history. what privilege.

drsmooth wrote:Rachel with a great get tonite on Wilber Ross, drumpf, and some Russian kleptocrat

The White House has repeatedly called the Yemen mission a success. White House spokesman Sean Spicer said on Feb. 8 that anyone "who undermines the success of that raid owes an apology and [does] a disservice to the life of Chief Owens."

"We gathered an unbelievable amount of intelligence that will prevent the potential deaths or attacks on American soil," said Spicer.

pacino wrote:Arizona wants to essentially outlaw protest:

SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.
But the real heart of the legislation is what Democrats say is the guilt by association — and giving the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated. And what’s worse, said Sen. Steve Farley, D-Tucson, is that the person who may have broken a window, triggering the claim there was a riot, might actually not be a member of the group but someone from the other side.

here’s something else: By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events. And Kavanagh, a former police officer, said if there are organized groups, “I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there.’’
“Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?’’ Kavanagh asked colleagues during debate. “Do you really want to wait until people are injuring each other, throwing Molotov cocktails, picking up barricades and smashing them through businesses in downtown Phoenix?’’
Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the new criminal laws are necessary.
“I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said.

Youseff wrote:

td11 wrote:

JUburton wrote:

td11 wrote:

Youseff wrote:at this point I'll take allies where ever I can get them, but W is one of history's greatest monsters. not enjoying everyone cooing over him lately.

Yeah

but he paints

He was so cute in the rain w his poncho!!

the maroons up thread are bemoaning me for thinking a guy that blatantly lied to get into a trillion dollar, ISIS vacuum creating, million civilian killing war isn't a horrible figure in history. what privilege.

pacino wrote:

pacino wrote:Arizona wants to essentially outlaw protest:

SB1142 expands the state’s racketeering laws, now aimed at organized crime, to also include rioting. And it redefines what constitutes rioting to include actions that result in damage to the property of others.
But the real heart of the legislation is what Democrats say is the guilt by association — and giving the government the right to criminally prosecute and seize the assets of everyone who planned a protest and everyone who participated. And what’s worse, said Sen. Steve Farley, D-Tucson, is that the person who may have broken a window, triggering the claim there was a riot, might actually not be a member of the group but someone from the other side.

here’s something else: By including rioting in racketeering laws, it actually permits police to arrest those who are planning events. And Kavanagh, a former police officer, said if there are organized groups, “I should certainly hope that our law enforcement people have some undercover people there.’’
“Wouldn’t you rather stop a riot before it starts?’’ Kavanagh asked colleagues during debate. “Do you really want to wait until people are injuring each other, throwing Molotov cocktails, picking up barricades and smashing them through businesses in downtown Phoenix?’’
Sen. Sylvia Allen, R-Snowflake, said the new criminal laws are necessary.
“I have been heartsick with what’s been going on in our country, what young people are being encouraged to do,’’ she said.

ding dong, the bill is dead (for now, in Arizona) other bills in other states remain

td11 wrote:pacino sent me this article from 2004 about bush that really reminded me what an awful president he was: http://www.nytimes.com/2004/10/17/magaz ... -bush.html

traderdave wrote:

drsmooth wrote:Rachel with a great get tonite on Wilber Ross, drumpf, and some Russian kleptocrat

This was fantastic and frightening at the same time. Donald Trump is the Manchurian Candidate.

pacino wrote:Trump blamed 'the generals' for the Navy Seal raid outcome and actually it was very successful.