POLITICS THREAD boo

Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:19:17

It's because I can't buy the drinks my family likes.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Youseff » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:19:38

soda represents 60% of grocery store sales. this has been devastating for them.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby JUburton » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:20:40

it is also hurting the healthcare sector because people will be healthier. DISGUSTING.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Youseff » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22:15

JUburton wrote:it is also hurting the healthcare sector because people will be healthier. DISGUSTING.


dialysis clinics will have to lay off nurses and doctors, you monster.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:22:16

Youseff wrote:soda represents 60% of grocery store sales. this has been devastating for them.

No it doesn't, not in a full-service store. Are we talking about smaller convenience-store style locations?

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Brantt » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:23:03

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:soda sales are down in Philly

so, mission accomplished


Layoffs abound!

1.5 million people live in Philadelphia and the working-age population of that works in many different sectors. It's sad if layoffs happen but thousands jobs end and start every month in the city. Not all of them get a writeup in the paper. it could have something to do with it being a contentious political issue and that they are planning on running a campaign off this; the threat of layoffs is of course going to be used.


Super markets already started laying off people last week. That article only touched on the beverage companies who are planning mass layoffs next week to combat drops in revenue. These are full-time jobs for people who more than likely have very little in life and struggle to support their families.

It is a complete disgrace.

Supermarkets started laying off people last week because soda sales were down in Philly last month?

I'm calling #$!&@ on that.

Edited to add: That ShopRite owner is laying off 300 workers at six stores (50 per store) because he sells less soda? Yeah right.

And if it is true, that dude needs to improve his business model. 50 workers per store is probably 10% of his workforce, if not more (hard to estimate without knowing what his total operation looks like). Does that mean >10% of his revenue stream is made up of soda sales? Because remember, it was just a 30-50% decrease, not a total loss in sales.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... much-as-50

This is basically a tax targeting the poor.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Bucky » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:23:31

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Youseff wrote:soda represents 60% of grocery store sales. this has been devastating for them.

No it doesn't, not in a full-service store. Are we talking about smaller convenience-store style locations?



we are talking the lack of a sarcasm font

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:24:22

Bucky wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Youseff wrote:soda represents 60% of grocery store sales. this has been devastating for them.

No it doesn't, not in a full-service store. Are we talking about smaller convenience-store style locations?



we are talking the lack of a sarcasm font

Ah.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:26:51

Brantt wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:soda sales are down in Philly

so, mission accomplished


Layoffs abound!

1.5 million people live in Philadelphia and the working-age population of that works in many different sectors. It's sad if layoffs happen but thousands jobs end and start every month in the city. Not all of them get a writeup in the paper. it could have something to do with it being a contentious political issue and that they are planning on running a campaign off this; the threat of layoffs is of course going to be used.


Super markets already started laying off people last week. That article only touched on the beverage companies who are planning mass layoffs next week to combat drops in revenue. These are full-time jobs for people who more than likely have very little in life and struggle to support their families.

It is a complete disgrace.

Supermarkets started laying off people last week because soda sales were down in Philly last month?

I'm calling #$!&@ on that.

Edited to add: That ShopRite owner is laying off 300 workers at six stores (50 per store) because he sells less soda? Yeah right.

And if it is true, that dude needs to improve his business model. 50 workers per store is probably 10% of his workforce, if not more (hard to estimate without knowing what his total operation looks like). Does that mean >10% of his revenue stream is made up of soda sales? Because remember, it was just a 30-50% decrease, not a total loss in sales.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... much-as-50

Uh huh.

And I have to laugh at the idea of people living in the Philly area (where gas prices are nearly $3.00) will drive more than a couple of extra miles to not pay the soda sales tax, which amounts to less than the price of a gallon of gas. Some people may do that on the short-term, but they won't inconvenience themselves long-term if it doesn't save them money.

And again, these stores need to find a better model then if they were vulnerable to a dip in soda sales that they knew was coming.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Youseff » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:27:30

Bucky was hurt the most and had to cut back his Mountain Dew consumption. Now there are 20 fridges in his basement only half filled with his desired sugar beverage.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Woody » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:28:11

Ol' Bucky Methmouth
you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:28:13

Brantt wrote:This is basically a tax targeting the poor.

All sales taxes are regressive, Brantt. Unless your belief is that we should get rid of all of them, that doesn't score any points with me.

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:29:02

Youseff needs to stop changing his avatar so damn much. I didn't realize it was him or else I would've assumed sarcasm. :lol:

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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Brantt » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:33:20

RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Brantt wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:
Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:soda sales are down in Philly

so, mission accomplished


Layoffs abound!

1.5 million people live in Philadelphia and the working-age population of that works in many different sectors. It's sad if layoffs happen but thousands jobs end and start every month in the city. Not all of them get a writeup in the paper. it could have something to do with it being a contentious political issue and that they are planning on running a campaign off this; the threat of layoffs is of course going to be used.


Super markets already started laying off people last week. That article only touched on the beverage companies who are planning mass layoffs next week to combat drops in revenue. These are full-time jobs for people who more than likely have very little in life and struggle to support their families.

It is a complete disgrace.

Supermarkets started laying off people last week because soda sales were down in Philly last month?

I'm calling #$!&@ on that.

Edited to add: That ShopRite owner is laying off 300 workers at six stores (50 per store) because he sells less soda? Yeah right.

And if it is true, that dude needs to improve his business model. 50 workers per store is probably 10% of his workforce, if not more (hard to estimate without knowing what his total operation looks like). Does that mean >10% of his revenue stream is made up of soda sales? Because remember, it was just a 30-50% decrease, not a total loss in sales.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... much-as-50

Uh huh.

And I have to laugh at the idea of people living in the Philly area (where gas prices are nearly $3.00) will drive more than a couple of extra miles to not pay the soda sales tax, which amounts to less than the price of a gallon of gas. Some people may do that on the short-term, but they won't inconvenience themselves long-term if it doesn't save them money.

And again, these stores need to find a better model then if they were vulnerable to a dip in soda sales that they knew was coming.



What model would you suggest given how tight their margins are overall in the first place?
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:34:54

Next time in am in Philly I am loading up the car with soda to sell out of the trunk. Apparently I need to go to poor areas to maximize my profit. How the hell is this a tax on the poor? Poor people should buy nutrition and drink water. Hell everyone should drink water. Maybe I am missing that lower income equals stupidity.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby pacino » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:35:06

kudos to the Montana GOP chairman. he came right out and said why he's against easier ways to vote:
Montana’s Republican Party chairman has sounded the alarm against efforts to the conduct an all-mail ballot election to replace Congressman Ryan Zinke.

In an email to party members, Jeff Essmann warned Republicans the mail-in election would “give the Democrats an inherent advantage in close elections due to their ability to organize large numbers of unpaid college students and members of public employee unions to gather ballots by going door to door.”

At issue is state Senate Bill 503, which would require a mail ballot election this spring when Montanans are likely to vote to replace U.S. Rep. Ryan Zinke, a Republican nominated by President Donald Trump to be Interior secretary. The Senate is expected to vote on Zinke’s confirmation next week. A special election would follow within 85 to 100 days.

it'll help Democrats too much. An honest politician!
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:36:57

Will Jackie Evancho be dead to the WH since she asked for some level of understanding for his transgender sister?

For the crazies, you should ask who knew that Jackie Evancho's sister was trans and when they knew. Heads should roll.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby Youseff » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:38:20

PA does have those places that only sell beer & soda, right? I'm dubious that people will buy less because the price is marginally higher long term, but, if we were to imagine it affecting sales, you hope they can evolve their business model. The net positive becomes less people are drinking soda, which is incredibly corrosive to the body and you can see a direct corollary between it's consumption and health problems like diabetes and obesity. Since we won't have ACA any more, having a healthier populace could have a long term net cash positive for tax payers, since people with those types of health problems that are also without insurance usually have to go to the emergency room, which partially gets subsidized by taxes.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:39:08

Brantt wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:
Brantt wrote:
RichmondPhilsFan wrote:Supermarkets started laying off people last week because soda sales were down in Philly last month?

I'm calling #$!&@ on that.

Edited to add: That ShopRite owner is laying off 300 workers at six stores (50 per store) because he sells less soda? Yeah right.

And if it is true, that dude needs to improve his business model. 50 workers per store is probably 10% of his workforce, if not more (hard to estimate without knowing what his total operation looks like). Does that mean >10% of his revenue stream is made up of soda sales? Because remember, it was just a 30-50% decrease, not a total loss in sales.



https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... much-as-50

Uh huh.

And I have to laugh at the idea of people living in the Philly area (where gas prices are nearly $3.00) will drive more than a couple of extra miles to not pay the soda sales tax, which amounts to less than the price of a gallon of gas. Some people may do that on the short-term, but they won't inconvenience themselves long-term if it doesn't save them money.

And again, these stores need to find a better model then if they were vulnerable to a dip in soda sales that they knew was coming.



What model would you suggest given how tight their margins are overall in the first place?

One that doesn't rely as heavily on one category of product. Allegedly.
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Re: POLITICS THREAD boo

Postby thephan » Thu Feb 23, 2017 11:40:24

pacino wrote:kudos to the Montana GOP chairman. he came right out and said why he's against easier ways to vote:
Montana’s Republican Party chairman has sounded the alarm against efforts to the conduct an all-mail ballot election to replace Congressman Ryan Zinke.

In an email to party members, Jeff Essmann warned Republicans the mail-in election would “give the Democrats an inherent advantage in close elections due to their ability to organize large numbers of unpaid college students and members of public employee unions to gather ballots by going door to door.”

At issue is state Senate Bill 503, which would require a mail ballot election this spring when Montanans are likely to vote to replace U.S. Rep. Ryan Zinke, a Republican nominated by President Donald Trump to be Interior secretary. The Senate is expected to vote on Zinke’s confirmation next week. A special election would follow within 85 to 100 days.

it'll help Democrats too much. An honest politician!


The Montana democrats keep trotting out half crazy candidates for the house that are had to vote for, so I think the GOP hold is reasonably safe. Dennis Rehberg had to work a little, but not too hard to nail down that seat for a long, long time.
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