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Postby drsmooth » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:49:13

Spicer: drumpf was "unbelievably decisive"

the instant those hyperbolic modifiers - adverbs both inadvertently true and obviously lies - start getting emitted, you know everything following is lies/delusions/word salad
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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:50:53

drumpf's focus is plugging leakes first

leakEs
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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby Brantt » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:51:29

pacino wrote:
Brantt wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:I didn't expect you to be this naïve.


Why?

Haven't you read anything he's written in the last 18 months?

This is par for the course.

Perhaps you should be more concerned with the #$!&@ hires Trump is making than with a poster on a message board.


edit: oh, and LOL



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Postby Youseff » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:51:54

I don't get the extra E.
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Postby pacino » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:53:36

Brantt wrote:
pacino wrote:
Brantt wrote:
Luzinski's Gut wrote:I didn't expect you to be this naïve.


Why?

Haven't you read anything he's written in the last 18 months?

This is par for the course.

Perhaps you should be more concerned with the #$!&@ hires Trump is making than with a poster on a message board.


edit: oh, and LOL



Here's a tip for a more healthy life..........only worry about what you can control.

It will help you be more productive.

we did control it on November 8th. thanks, brantt. have a great day!
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Postby pacino » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:54:28

spicer essentially spilled the beans that trump himself lied when he said he didnt know the story when asked this past Friday.


it goes to the top.
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Postby pacino » Tue Feb 14, 2017 14:57:27

Youseff wrote:so the GOP spin is that National Security is important, and you have to have trust in the people responsible for it, and that's why as soon as Trump lost trust in him he canned him. Doesn't fit reality since Trump has known probably well in advance of Sally Yates explicitly telling him, but at the very least since Yates told him.

1. it' s DOJ's fault for not telling them sooner

2. They had people in the WH check 'for weeks' and they found no issue.

3. Also, they had no issues with Flynn calling because they trusted him.

4. they lost trust with him after the story went public because he lied to them, even though they already stated they found no issue with what he discussed.

5. Trump was unbelievably decisive in waiting a few weeks until after the story became public and asked Flynn for his resignation.

6. also, Trump knew nothing when asked about it 4 days ago.
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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:02:07

drsmooth wrote:Spicer: drumpf was "unbelievably decisive"

This is actually a true statement. As in "it's unbelievable how decisive he was in keeping Flynn in a sensitive position when he had information demonstrating him to be unfit."

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Postby slugsrbad » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:02:28

Spicer ending by reiterating that it was an isolated incident and that there was nothing wrong with the conversation, but it was a matter of trust. We will never see that transcript.
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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby drsmooth » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:05:41

Brantt wrote:
.......only worry about what you can control.



Always guessed you were someone with no worries

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Postby Brantt » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:07:57

Popcorn fart.

Save the faux outrage for something real.
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Postby CalvinBall » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:11:32

Brantt wrote:Popcorn fart.

Save the faux outrage for something real.


just really curious how you are outraged over emails but not this. do you really believe trump did not order this? us intelligence has been able to confirm some of the claims of the leaked dossier.

when will you be outraged? when will it be real for you?

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Postby traderdave » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:15:20

Sean Spicer today:
"Immediately after the Department of Justice notified the White House counsel of the situation, the White House counsel briefed the President and a small group of senior advisers," "The level of trust between the President and Gen. Flynn had eroded to the point where he felt he had to make a change," "The President was very concerned that Gen. Flynn had misled the vice president and others."

Kellyanne Conway yesterday afternoon:
“Gen. Flynn does enjoy the full confidence of the president,”

So, which is it? President Agent Orange is certainly following through on his promise to turn Washington upside down.

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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby Brantt » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:31:45

CalvinBall wrote:
Brantt wrote:Popcorn fart.

Save the faux outrage for something real.


just really curious how you are outraged over emails but not this. do you really believe trump did not order this? us intelligence has been able to confirm some of the claims of the leaked dossier.

when will you be outraged? when will it be real for you?


What specifically are you talking about?

What did Trump order? His future NSA talking with other countries during the transition? That is standard operating procedure for every incoming administration and has been done since the beginning of time. There's a reason the Logan Act has never been observed. They would be neglecting their duties if they were not doing that.

According to the Washington Post, the FBI reviewed the transcript of the call Flynn had and there was nothing illicit or confidential in the call. Actually, I believe the FBI announced there was no wrongdoing by Flynn in the call based on the transcript. The only issue I see here is Flynn lying to Pence and making him look like a fool a week later. That's a fireable offense and he was held accountable and paid the price.

In terms of the dossier, your comment above is anything ranging from intellectually dishonest to completely false.

None of the newly learned information relates to the salacious allegations in the dossier. Rather it relates to conversations between foreign nationals. The dossier details about a dozen conversations between senior Russian officials and other Russian individuals. Sources would not confirm which specific conversations were intercepted or the content of those discussions due to the classified nature of US intelligence collection programs.

But the intercepts do confirm that some of the conversations described in the dossier took place between the same individuals on the same days and from the same locations as detailed in the dossier, according to the officials. CNN has not confirmed whether any content relates to then-candidate Trump.


Nothing said about Trump in the dossier was confirmed. Not a word. This is craziness. It's crying wolf over and over and over and over again. It's making things up out of thin air. To answer your question, I will be outraged if Trump doesn't follow through on what he said he was going to do. Or more likely, I will be outraged when the Republican Congress sits on their ass and doesn't push his agenda through.

The only outrageous behavior I've seen since January 20th is from the sore-loser Democrats in Congress and the media.
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Postby Stay_Disappointed » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:33:18

I am a little disheartened when media outlets report pudzer's quote on "robots" (actually automation) and leave out the second part of the quote regarding the problems with automation. It gets to a point that you really don't know what to believe
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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby slugsrbad » Tue Feb 14, 2017 15:49:33

Chaffetz sent inquiry into Mar-a-Largo event to see if proper protocols were followed w/ regard to confidential information and such.

Copying from what was tweeted by a Buzz Feed reporter:

Please provide the following information ... no later than February 28, 2017:
1. An explanation of whether proper security protocols were followed with regard to discussions at Mar-a-Lago, as well as who set those protocols;

2. Identify the documents reviewed at the dinner table and other common areas at Mar-a-Lago, and whether any of those documents were classified or otherwise sensitive, and if so, what classification level and handling caveats applied;

3. An explanation of whether any classified information was discussed in common areas at Mar-a-Lago, including while any individuals were speaking or recording on cellular telephones;

4. An explanation about whether and how the guests, employees, and residents at Mar-a-Lago are vetted in order to ensure that they are not foreign agents or spies on behalf of a foreign government; and,

5. In addition to the SCIF at Mar-a-Lago, what other security protocols are in place to protect sensitive information at Mar-a-Lago.
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Re: Pay wwry his money so we can discuss POLITICS thread

Postby thephan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 16:00:11

slugsrbad wrote:Chaffetz sent inquiry into Mar-a-Largo event to see if proper protocols were followed w/ regard to confidential information and such.


Checklist:

1. Alert POTUS in the middle of a crowded private club that there is an international issue requiring his attention. <check>
2. Alert foreign national world leader having dinner with him that this treat is within his sphere of world influence. <check>
3. Pass out documents for review at the table. <check>
4. Instruct on how to use cellphones as torches. <check>
5. Fail to instruct that cellphone cameras might be compromised, especially on old android phones not hardened and festooned with saved auto login accounts <check> <check> <double check>
6. Pull back so diners, guests and club members can take pictures and selfies while the leaders review the documents. <check>
7. Let the leaders discuss the emerging situation while finishing off their nuggets, while waiting for the soft serve course to arrive. <check>
8. Let the wait and bus staff clean up the documents for recycling or disposal if these had ketchup on them. <check>
9. Remember forever and always the absolute and unquestionable power of the president which shall never, ever, and ever be questions, and his authority within to do whatever he pleases so help you god as sworn on a stack of tweets 140 character at a time. <pants check> <check>

I think that seems like all reasonable precautions were taken. Nothing more to see here.
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Postby Squire » Tue Feb 14, 2017 16:04:38

pacino wrote:Trump is having lunch with Chris Christie

then this populism is on tap:

President Trump signs H.J. Resolution 41, which nullifies a Dodd-Frank SEC rule requiring oil and gas companies to disclose taxes, fees they pay to foreign governments, 2:30 p.m.


Meals with Chris Christie tend to last a while.....

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Postby thephan » Tue Feb 14, 2017 16:05:27

File under you can't make this shit up -

The White House has posted inaccurate texts of President Trump's own executive orders on the White House website, raising further questions about how thorough the Trump administration has been in drafting some of his most controversial actions.


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Postby td11 » Tue Feb 14, 2017 16:17:03

td11 wrote:@tomlobianco
House intel chair @DevinNunes says he wants answers from FBI on leak of transcripts that led to #flynnresignation

@mkraju
Rep. Devin Nunes says the Intelligence Committee won't look into discussions between Trump and Flynn, citing executive privilege

republicans are a joke


@nycsouthpaw 5h5 hours ago
This happened during the transition. Nunes served on the transition executive committee. http://www.latimes.com/politics/essenti ... story.html

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How is @DevinNunes making the committee's investigative decisions on a matter where he's personally conflicted?

only the BEST conflicts of interest
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