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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby NickSixers » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:25:44

Spicer just accidentally tweeted (and then deleted) a password for something.

I thought Barron is really good at the cybers? He needs to get things together over there.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Youseff » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:26:14

TenuredVulture wrote:I see these various twitter leak things, and it seems like it might be credible. But then again, we all thought the campaign was an internal train wreck too so there's really no reason to see this ending well. Besides, most of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is stuff Republicans want to do anyway. Indeed, at least one of the leak things I came across indicated that Trump really doesn't care about some of the social stuff (I mean, Trump is better than Pence on LGBTQ and probably even abortion) so....

On the other hand, Trump is popular with the Republican base, and I'd guess especially with the low information "independent leaning Republican" voters so disloyalty on the the part of Republican members of Congress may be a problem for them.

I just don't know anything anymore.


what twitter leak things?
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:31:23

TenuredVulture wrote:I see these various twitter leak things, and it seems like it might be credible. But then again, we all thought the campaign was an internal train wreck too so there's really no reason to see this ending well. Besides, most of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is stuff Republicans want to do anyway. Indeed, at least one of the leak things I came across indicated that Trump really doesn't care about some of the social stuff (I mean, Trump is better than Pence on LGBTQ and probably even abortion) so....

On the other hand, Trump is popular with the Republican base, and I'd guess especially with the low information "independent leaning Republican" voters so disloyalty on the the part of Republican members of Congress may be a problem for them.

I just don't know anything anymore.

You do know. Nothing's changed, they're just in complete power now. Now we get to see them do all the things they've wanted to do for years. They have a guy that will signs the bills they want to pass; like Grover Norquist has said he has a working hand and a heartbeat. For example, their 'infrastructure program' will be tax cuts and money-making opportunities for private firms that have connections. Some white elephants will be built but not electric grid, water pipes, etc.

We're going to get it, and get it good.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Woody » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:34:40

NickSixers wrote:Spicer just accidentally tweeted (and then deleted) a password for something.

I thought Barron is really good at the cybers? He needs to get things together over there.


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you sure do seem to have a lot of time on your hands to be on this forum? Do you have a job? Are you a shut-in?

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:44:59

Eh, what would they know?

WASHINGTON — Few, if any, Texans in Congress support building a wall across the entire U.S./Mexico border, according to a Texas Tribune delegation-wide survey.

None of the 38-member Texas delegation offered full-throated support of a complete border wall, a position popular with President-elect Donald Trump's supporters that would impact Texas more than it would any other state.

Instead, several members of the Texas delegation called for new policies on the border, including fencing and walls in some places, and beefing up security in other ways such as employing new surveillance technology and adding more federal agents. Several lawmakers did not respond to multiple requests by the Tribune for comment.

Some Texas Republicans in Congress told the Tribune they backed building a wall but declined to clarify whether it should be a contiguous construction from San Diego to Brownsville. U.S. Rep. Pete Sessions, R-Dallas, believes Trump's support for a border wall is "an analogy," according to a spokeswoman.

No Texas Democrat that responded to the Tribune's survey offered support for a wall.

Among many Texas Republicans in Congress, the concept, while popular with the party's base, collides with another conservative tenant: eminent domain.

A wall would require the confiscation of ranching land near the Rio Grande, and several Texas Republicans expressed concern about the federal government taking away property — often held by families for generations — and the legal tangles that would inevitably arise from that.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:45:20

Woody wrote:
NickSixers wrote:Spicer just accidentally tweeted (and then deleted) a password for something.

I thought Barron is really good at the cybers? He needs to get things together over there.


Brazzers premium member?

furiously tweeting
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Soren » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:49:20

I mean it's awesome we're on a trajectory for a fascist state but it's also cool that jh might be happy with some of the conservative legislation that gets passed. He might even get to post about it on state run social media platforms!
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby slugsrbad » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:51:51

Soren wrote:I mean it's awesome we're on a trajectory for a fascist state but it's also cool that jh might be happy with some of the conservative legislation that gets passed. He might even get to post about it on state run social media platforms!


Unlike our esteemed Republican Congresspersons, I do not think JH would go as far to sell his soul for GOP pet projects.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby The Crimson Cyclone » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:58:34

NickSixers wrote:Spicer just accidentally tweeted (and then deleted) a password for something.

I thought Barron is really good at the cybers? He needs to get things together over there.


gotta be his Dippin Dots rewards account
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Roger Dorn » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:00:58

Honestly if Trump loses in 2020 he's not going to leave
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby jerseyhoya » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:03:15

slugsrbad wrote:
Soren wrote:I mean it's awesome we're on a trajectory for a fascist state but it's also cool that jh might be happy with some of the conservative legislation that gets passed. He might even get to post about it on state run social media platforms!


Unlike our esteemed Republican Congresspersons, I do not think JH would go as far to sell his soul for GOP pet projects.

I would sell my soul because it's not worth much. I just don't think the Trump presidency will be worth the lasting damage to American democracy, the Republican Party, or the conservative movement even if we get a few policy priorities passed in the short term.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:13:13

Youseff wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I see these various twitter leak things, and it seems like it might be credible. But then again, we all thought the campaign was an internal train wreck too so there's really no reason to see this ending well. Besides, most of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is stuff Republicans want to do anyway. Indeed, at least one of the leak things I came across indicated that Trump really doesn't care about some of the social stuff (I mean, Trump is better than Pence on LGBTQ and probably even abortion) so....

On the other hand, Trump is popular with the Republican base, and I'd guess especially with the low information "independent leaning Republican" voters so disloyalty on the the part of Republican members of Congress may be a problem for them.

I just don't know anything anymore.


what twitter leak things?


there was an account purporting to be leaking stuff from inside the white house. it got taken down last night but seems to back up? https://twitter.com/whitehouseleaks
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Youseff » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:36:40

jerseyhoya wrote:
slugsrbad wrote:
Soren wrote:I mean it's awesome we're on a trajectory for a fascist state but it's also cool that jh might be happy with some of the conservative legislation that gets passed. He might even get to post about it on state run social media platforms!


Unlike our esteemed Republican Congresspersons, I do not think JH would go as far to sell his soul for GOP pet projects.

I would sell my soul because it's not worth much. I just don't think the Trump presidency will be worth the lasting damage to American democracy, the Republican Party, or the conservative movement even if we get a few policy priorities passed in the short term.


you having a soul could impact people in a positive way, since you've decided to live in the belly of the beast. A real resistance has to be strong in the GOP for anything to change.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Youseff » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:39:07

td11 wrote:
Youseff wrote:
TenuredVulture wrote:I see these various twitter leak things, and it seems like it might be credible. But then again, we all thought the campaign was an internal train wreck too so there's really no reason to see this ending well. Besides, most of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is stuff Republicans want to do anyway. Indeed, at least one of the leak things I came across indicated that Trump really doesn't care about some of the social stuff (I mean, Trump is better than Pence on LGBTQ and probably even abortion) so....

On the other hand, Trump is popular with the Republican base, and I'd guess especially with the low information "independent leaning Republican" voters so disloyalty on the the part of Republican members of Congress may be a problem for them.

I just don't know anything anymore.


what twitter leak things?


there was an account purporting to be leaking stuff from inside the white house. it got taken down last night but seems to back up? https://twitter.com/whitehouseleaks


seems fake
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:42:09

These people, if real, would do better to wait for a real workplace injustice or illegal move to actually take a stand. Being fired over obvious insubordination isn't good for any cause, especially when you'll be replaced by a lackey.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Roger Dorn » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:53:41

@JuddLegum 4. Dems, meanwhile, just unanimously voted BEN CARSON out of committee for HUD Secretary. One of the most unqualified nominees in memory

@JuddLegum 6. Democrats are also being VERY slow to oppose Sessions, who is poised to crack down on immigrants and gut civil rights enforcement

@JuddLegum 7. Only 17 Democrats are publicly opposing Sessions, who couldn't get confirmed as a federal judge because of his history of racism

@JuddLegum So far, Senate Democrats have cast 179 votes IN FAVOR of Trump's nominees and 57 votes AGAINST

Hahaha some party of opposition. Such cowardice in Congress.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 12:54:59

Roger Dorn wrote:Honestly if Trump loses in 2020 he's not going to leave

I fully expect him to lose in 2020, and the two month period between Election Day and Inauguration Day in 2020 has me absolutely terrified. Way more so than the rest of the four years.

I mean, you have the pettiest, most self-absorbed person ever to sit in the White House (at least in modern times), who has access to nearly unlimited power, feeling cheated/upset/insulted. What could possibly go wrong?

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Postby CFP » Thu Jan 26, 2017 13:04:54

Mexico meeting cancelled, but our relationships with our allies are going to improve bigly

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby td11 » Thu Jan 26, 2017 13:17:30

Roger Dorn wrote:@JuddLegum 4. Dems, meanwhile, just unanimously voted BEN CARSON out of committee for HUD Secretary. One of the most unqualified nominees in memory

@JuddLegum 6. Democrats are also being VERY slow to oppose Sessions, who is poised to crack down on immigrants and gut civil rights enforcement

@JuddLegum 7. Only 17 Democrats are publicly opposing Sessions, who couldn't get confirmed as a federal judge because of his history of racism

@JuddLegum So far, Senate Democrats have cast 179 votes IN FAVOR of Trump's nominees and 57 votes AGAINST

Hahaha some party of opposition. Such cowardice in Congress.


i don't get what the dems get out of being "reasonable" on these nominations. if the logic is that, well they're gonna get confirmed anyway, then why don't all Dems unanimously vote NO-- at least you can look your own base in the eye and say you did what you could.

instead we have even Liz Warren writing a facebook post justifying her YES vote on Carson. ugh
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Jan 26, 2017 13:19:58

The Democrats are being dumb, because they think the old rules still apply--under the old rules, Presidents typically did get to appoint pretty much anyone they wanted to cabinet positions.

Things have changed. Only Kristen Gillibrand seems to realize it. I do think pretty much every other Democratic Senator is out of the running for the Democratic POTUS nomination in 2020 thanks to their cravenness.
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