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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 07:51:13

There is an article on Philly.com about Kelly Anne's 1998 standup routine. To be fair, it is a charity gig, but the best laugh line is one that requires hindsight. She declared that there are “pundettes” like Laura Ingraham and Anne Coulter and defined the term as “Someone who goes on TV constantly and just says the same thing over and over and over and over again, but never wears the same thing twice.” Is it life imitating art, or is she unknowingly so unoriginal that she just picked up her role with the playbook mentally defined (lets face it the repugnant Ingraham and repulsive Coulter have made bank out of this).

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Postby slugsrbad » Thu Jan 26, 2017 08:39:00

Chelsea Manning tweeted that we needed a strong, unapologetic progressive to lead "us" (you know, basically the whole argument we had in the primary and election with Bernie Bros and the like... Donald Trump's takeaway:

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Ungrateful TRAITOR Chelsea Manning, who should never have been released from prison, is now calling President Obama a weak leader. Terrible!
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 08:47:20

progress: Trump called her Chelsea!
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 08:49:08

this is the paragraph from that Langer piece that just jumped out:
Ahead of and behind Mr. Langer were voters who did not look as if they should be allowed to vote, Mr. Trump said, according to the staff members — but they were nonetheless permitted to cast provisional ballots. The president threw out the names of Latin American countries that the voters might have come from.

we know the man is a racist, we know the man is crazy, and we know he's going to do something about the people that DO NOT LOOK as if they should be allowed to vote.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 08:56:21

pathetic PA Secretary of State defends all the ILLEGALS who voted to ensure a Trump victory:
President Donald Trump repeated his unsupported claim that at least 3 million illegal immigrants cast ballots for Hillary Clinton, calling for a major investigation into voter fraud despite arguments by his own lawyers that no fraud took place in three states he carried.

Pennsylvania was one of those states.

In response to a recount effort by Green Party candidate Jill Stein following the election, Trump filed court documents stating that "there is no evidence - or even an allegation - that any tampering with Pennsylvania's voting systems actually occurred."

The court document cites Pennsylvania Secretary of State Pedro A. Cortes who said voting systems were "secure" and criticized contrary suggestions as "uninformed and dangerous." Those comments had been made in response to claims by Trump that Pennsylvania's election results could be rigged by voter fraud such as people casting ballots in the name of dead people still on voter rolls.

Those comments were similar to what Cortes told the Reading Eagle in a November report examining the possibility of voter fraud in which the secretary called the accusations of a rigged election false and disheartening.

CORTES, eh? PROBABLY SOMEONE WHO DOESN'T LOOK LIKE HE SHOULD BE VOTING!!!!
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby CalvinBall » Thu Jan 26, 2017 09:06:24

KAC on TV this morning assured people Tiffany trump is not registered in two states. Well, she is wrong. Surprise!

These people don't understand how easy it is to fact check these dumb lies.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 09:09:09

they seem to not care; their goal is to just keep their supporters.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby drsmooth » Thu Jan 26, 2017 09:21:26

pacino wrote:they seem to not care; their goal is to just keep their supporters.



gonna need a bunch more rallies
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Soren » Thu Jan 26, 2017 09:30:50

RIP America.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 09:42:52

I really want to advocate for playing numbers games with the WH as "ratings" and popularity seem to be the ego that is driving the nations focus coupled with a 'never admit you are wrong' foundation, but if the election's popular vote count and the mid-40% approval rating are left to dominate, then the whole of the US gets played, simply put we lose. Where is our focus? What positive, public actions are moving forward? Because there is a need for public adoration, it is just a cycle of 'greatest hits', no matter how daft. Now more then ever we need a thoughtful approach to normalizing America to our own success.

If we get down to the bottom of the puddle, the real terrifying thing is that this tabloid mentality of governance here in the first week sets a tone, but if critically analyzed it is the type of destabilizing, division inducing actions that worked so well in Crimea. Its what worked with the election. It simply is the same stuff. Split the people, divide the press, launch alternate press (first question goes to Laura Ingrahm's new propaganda venture), pump up the loyalists, and spread fear. That is like page 4, just after the introduction, in the Russian psychological warfare playbook.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:31:55

another contractor is suing Trump for non-payment:
The suit makes several references to the importance to Trump’s presidential ambitions of getting the hotel open. The complaint says the October opening was set for just before the election “to provide an opportunity for positive press coverage for Mr. Trump’s presidential campaign.”

Freestate says the Trump Organization has offered to pay only one-third of the project change and acceleration costs the contractor incurred. The suit contends that Trump’s businesses have a practice of unfairly pressuring contractors to accept reduced payments on projects.

Turmp had them working non-stop on his stupid DC hotel so it could open before the election and then stiffed 'em.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:37:19

The Nerthlands has stepped up to replace the US:
Up to 20 countries have indicated support for the Netherlands’ plan to set up an international safe abortion fund to plug a $600m funding gap caused by Donald Trump’s reinstatement of the “global gag rule”, the Dutch international development minister, Lilianne Ploumen, said on Wednesday.

Ploumen took soundings from a number of her colleagues around the world on Tuesday evening after the Netherlands said it would act to mitigate the impact on hundreds of charities around the world.

The “global gag rule”, also known as the Mexico City policy, was reimposed by Trump on Monday, and bans US federal funding for NGOs in foreign countries that provide abortion services or abortion advocacy.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:43:58

the official portrait. get to fapping:

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:44:41

He has not stiffed them yet, he is just late paying. Clearly he has been busy. :(
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby RichmondPhilsFan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:51:55

Trump had a portrait of Andrew Jackson hung in the White House.

Even if you don't believe that Jackson is the worst President of all-time, he is almost certainly bottom-five from a performance standpoint and just as a general human being.

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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Youseff » Thu Jan 26, 2017 10:54:15

Werthless wrote:
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CalvinBall wrote:The trump anecdote from Bernhard langher is something.


The insane racism and lack of sense it makes aside...The most insane part to me is that it didn't even happen to Langher. It was Langher relaying a story about someone he knew. But trumps ego had to change the story so he could tell it in a room full of congress. You can't be like "Bernard once told me..." it had to be trump the big star with a famous friend. Complete madness. Personality disorder

This shit is insane

Guy on my bowling team who voted for trump has already abandoned him. I guess he thought trump was playing a character. Sigh.


that's a good sign, though.

Had a conversation with my mom this week, where she was half-heartedly defending him (You have to admit that the media wants to make him look bad), and I was gently pointing out the repeated ridiculousness. It's the media's job to cover the president and hold him accountable to the american people. That's what they do, and it doesnt have to be antagonistic. In particular, I was pointing out that it made no sense to question the inauguration attendance figures. It would have been trivial to argue that it's no surprise that a city that votes 90% Democrat, with a majority minority population, would turn out in large numbers for the first black, Democratic President. He could have followed it up with a joke about his supporters in middle class cannot easily take off from work, and it's a non-story.

She said "I hope I don't regret voting for him...."

It's been 1 week. The 70 year old child that you voted into the White House is not going to change.

Side note: I made an argument that, in spite of the fact I never voted for Obama, he is an above average President. Giving 20 million people health insurance that didnt have it... it's not a trivial change. Historians will look favorably on him, despite the fact that he didnt do many of the things that people thought he would do (get out of Iraq faster, close Guantanamo, etc). Yes, this is what the world is coming to, where I am praising Obama's legacy. Amazing.


I wonder if the strategy is to do all the evil stuff that hurts people early, then focus on infrastructure, infrastructure (hour late to work this morning, thank you MTA :-D ) which you can build a marketing campaign and re-election campaign around.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby pacino » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:04:23

Leader Trump knows all:
In a remarkable Tuesday night floor speech, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), the chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, praised the physical and mental powers of President Trump and encouraged people to get “unvarnished” news directly from the president, not from the news media.

“Just think what the media would be saying about President Trump if he were a Democrat,” Smith said during the evening time reserved for one-minute speeches. “He has tremendous energy. He campaigned for 18 months, puts in 15-hour days, and has the stamina of a bull elephant, like Teddy Roosevelt. He is courageous and fearless. Given the amount of hate directed his way, no doubt he constantly receives death threats, but that doesn’t curtail his public appearances or seem to worry him in the least.”

The rest of Smith’s speech included praise for how Trump involved his children in decisions — a subject of some controversy among progressive legal groups — and a laundry list of accomplishments he credited to the president, including a spike in the consumer confidence index.

“The national liberal media won’t print that, or air it, or post it,” Smith said. “Better to get your news directly from the president. In fact, it might be the only way to get the unvarnished truth.”
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby thephan » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:15:31

I've been chewing on this for a few days and finally pulled the trigger to suggest that this is really just a return to the 1850's and the Know Nothing Party

Wiki's introduction to the topic is:

The Native American Party, renamed the American Party in 1855 and commonly known as the Know Nothing movement, was an American political party that operated nationally in the mid-1850s.

The movement arose in response to an influx of migrants and promised to "purify" American politics by limiting or ending the influence of Irish Catholics and other immigrants, thus reflecting nativist and anti-Catholic sentiment. It was empowered by popular fears that the country was being overwhelmed by German and Irish Catholic immigrants, whom they saw as hostile to Republican values and as being controlled by the Pope. Mainly active from 1854 to 1856, the movement strove to curb immigration and naturalization but met with little success. Membership was limited to Protestant men. There were few prominent leaders, and the largely middle-class membership was divided over the issue of slavery.


It sounds very familiar, and the party name has a nice ring to it (tbf - Know Nothing was not its official name, just its official stance).
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby Youseff » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:22:43

pacino wrote:Leader Trump knows all:
In a remarkable Tuesday night floor speech, Rep. Lamar Smith (R-Tex.), the chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee, praised the physical and mental powers of President Trump and encouraged people to get “unvarnished” news directly from the president, not from the news media.

“Just think what the media would be saying about President Trump if he were a Democrat,” Smith said during the evening time reserved for one-minute speeches. “He has tremendous energy. He campaigned for 18 months, puts in 15-hour days, and has the stamina of a bull elephant, like Teddy Roosevelt. He is courageous and fearless. Given the amount of hate directed his way, no doubt he constantly receives death threats, but that doesn’t curtail his public appearances or seem to worry him in the least.”

The rest of Smith’s speech included praise for how Trump involved his children in decisions — a subject of some controversy among progressive legal groups — and a laundry list of accomplishments he credited to the president, including a spike in the consumer confidence index.



it is impressive how much energy he has at 72 or whatever he's at, but he's definitely on modafinil or some other such business man stimulant. it's also why he's insane.
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Re: You Get an Executive Order and You Get: A Politics Threa

Postby TenuredVulture » Thu Jan 26, 2017 11:24:04

I see these various twitter leak things, and it seems like it might be credible. But then again, we all thought the campaign was an internal train wreck too so there's really no reason to see this ending well. Besides, most of the horrible stuff Trump is doing is stuff Republicans want to do anyway. Indeed, at least one of the leak things I came across indicated that Trump really doesn't care about some of the social stuff (I mean, Trump is better than Pence on LGBTQ and probably even abortion) so....

On the other hand, Trump is popular with the Republican base, and I'd guess especially with the low information "independent leaning Republican" voters so disloyalty on the the part of Republican members of Congress may be a problem for them.

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